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From: howard wolinsky <>
Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-G] An online chart of the latest haplogroup Gtree for everyone
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <995483.25664.qm@web53804.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Where did the the new info come from?


--- Ted Kandell <> wrote:

> DYS39- is the second number in your haplotype. If
> that's "21" and you're G2, I think it's possible
> you'll be M406+/
>
> -ted
>
> DQ377992 in GenBank Nucleotide
> YGYTX in ySearch / DNA-Fingerprint user: 5136.70 / G
> SNP Project ID Y-106
> CiteULike - Archaeogenetics
> Flickr: Images from Archaeogenetics
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Cheryl Williams <>
> To: Ted Kandell <>;
>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:30:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-G] An online chart of
> the latest haplogroup G tree for everyone
>
>
> What does DYS 390 = 23 mean???
> Cheryl
>
> Ted Kandell <> wrote:
> (Sorry for not getting back to you all about the
> discussions - I will shortly - I take it back about
> the Alans not being in Western Europe - thanks to
> Ray for the maps ...)
>
> Here's a new phylogenetic tree of G showing which
> SNPs are new and which aren't, to help people get
> oriented:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_%28Y-DNA%29#Phylogeny
>
> Thomas Krahn in FTDNA is ordering the primers for
> these new SNPs so I think shortly he'll be able to
> test for them.
>
> Most people will be able to figure out if they are
> U8+ or U13+ based on the network diagrams for 67
> STRs, but I think that lots of people who don't have
> 67 will be very curious about it. From what Dennis
> Garvey and Jack Ballantyne have seen in the G SNP
> Project, and from what Ray Banks and I have seen in
> the network diagrams, of the old "G2*" people, about
> 90% are U8+ (remember, not counting old G2a and
> G2b), and of those, about 25% are also in the U13+
> group.
>
> Here's Ray's G network diagram, showing who falls
> out where in G:
> http://members.cox.net/morebanks/Diagram.html
>
> I'm basing the idea that M406 is inside U8 because
> some of our Turkish Gs who tested U8+ in the G SNP
> Project also have a similar "DYS390 <= 21"
> haplotype, the kind that's rather common in Anatolia
> and apparently Greece too. We don't have the data
> from the Crete paper yet, but the number of 4.2% of
> Anatolian haplotypes having M406 exactly corresponds
> to the number that have DYS390=21 (or rarely 20).
>
> Ray has a listing on his page of who falls into what
> sub-haplogroup based on who tested as what in the G
> SNP Project, and then who are their close matches.:
> http://members.cox.net/morebanks/Diagram.html
>
> -ted
>
> DQ377992 in GenBank Nucleotide
> YGYTX in ySearch / DNA-Fingerprint user: 5136.70 / G
> SNP Project ID Y-106
> CiteULike - Archaeogenetics
> Flickr: Images from Archaeogenetics
>
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