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From: "Jackie Cotterill" <>
Subject: Re: [WAR] Elizabeth KNIBB - hiring servantsin Warwickshire forCortlandt estate in Berkshire?
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 23:56:16 +0100
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Another possibility is that one landed lady got in touch with another landed lady somewhere else in the county/country and asked for possible recruits. It would appear that this was quite a common practice so that local girls did not gossip about their employers to their friends and families.

Regards

Jackie

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From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of ramaix
Sent: 06 July 2011 22:24
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Subject: Re: [WAR] Elizabeth KNIBB - hiring servants in Warwickshire forCortlandt estate in Berkshire?


Hello Pickard,

Maybe I'm wrong, but II thought the hiring (or mop) fairs were only for hiring agricultural workers and farm servants, not indoor servants. As the fairs were rather
boisterous (to put it politely), it's hard to imagine upper-class ladies or people like clergy wives attending such events to "shop" for house maids or ladies' maids.

Regards.

MAR in France.



> Message du 06/07/11 21:08
> De : "Pickard - Gmail"

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> Objet : Re: [WAR] Elizabeth KNIBB - hiring servants in Warwickshire forCortlandt estate in Berkshire?
>
> Hi Therese,
>
> One possibility may be getting servants through a hiring fair. There is a
> picture of one in Warwick town taken from an Illustrated London News of 1872
> on my website
>
> See: http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/hiring_fair.html
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Happy Hunting
>
> Pickard Trepess
> Currently in Muscat, Oman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Therese Family
> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 1:16 PM
> To:
> Subject: [WAR] Elizabeth KNIBB - hiring servants in Warwickshire
> forCortlandt estate in Berkshire?
>
> Hi!
>
> This seems like the sort of question the experts here might be able to throw
> some light on.
>
> My 4x great grandmother Elizabeth KNIBB c1775-6, of "Watin" Warwickshire
> according to the 1861 census (Leek Wooton, possibly?), is listed in the 1801
> census for Binfield, Berkshire as one servant amongst many in the household
> of "Elliot O E Esq (High Sheriff) & Margaret van Cortland".
>
> The property in question seems to be Binfield Park House, Binfield,
> Berkshire.
>
> She is in fact Margaret-Hughes Van Cortlandt (daughter of Col. Philip Van
> Cortlandt, loyalist soldier in the American revolution, born in New York in
> 1734). He is O Elliott Elliott Esq. of Binfield Park Berks and Portland
> Place. Whatever "High Sheriff" refers to, he wasn't High Sheriff of
> Berkshire according to Wiki.
>
> Does anyone know whether there are records of hiring of servants in
> Warwickshire villages to go to large houses in Berkshire in the late
> 1700s/early 1800s?
>
> I had a quick look at the online records listed at the Warwickshire Record
> Office, but found nothing useful about Binfield.
>
> A more obvious line of enquiry would be via the Berkshire Record Office, but
> I wonder if anyone here has any observations or bright ideas?
>
> Grateful for any thoughts!
>
> Therese.
>
>
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