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From: "Gus Tysoe" <>
Subject: Re: [WAR] St Edith(a) ? in Monks Kirby
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:12:00 -0000
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Many thanks to Jacqui and Mike for supplying my Lost URL for the VCHs etc...
It's now "safely" back in my Favourites.

But as to whether the VCH is Absolutely Authoritative is perhaps another
matter... All one can really say is that around 60 years ago - when it went
to press - the consensus of scholarly belief was that it was then St Edith,
and apparently 'always' had been.

As a number of Things have changed since those happier[?] days - County
Boundaries for one, to say nothing of 'Rationalisations' of CofE Parishes -
that a tiny thing like the spelling of a church's dedicatee can well get
lost in the upheavals...

Gus




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacqui Simkins" <>
To: "Mike Fisher" <>; <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WAR] St Edith(a) ? in Monks Kirby


> Hello Worcestershire Boys!!
>
> Would it help if I look at Crockford's in RO? Or are we happy that it is
> St Edith in VCH?
>
> Jacqui
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Fisher
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [WAR] St Edith(a) ? in Monks Kirby
>
>
> Hi Gus
>
> Is this the url you are looking for ?
>
> http://www.british-history.ac.uk/place.aspx?gid=34&region=5
>
> Mike behind the big house in Westwood Park.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gus Tysoe" <>
> To: <>; "Warwick list" <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WAR] St Edith(a) ? in Monks Kirby
>
>
> > Hi Pickard,
> >
> > I share your feeling that Dedications should be Right - and have also
> > struggled unsuccessfully to find Definitive Answers...
> >
> > What *may* be 'the bible' of Church Dedications - Frances
> Arnold-Forster's
> > "Studies in Church Dedications" Vol 3; 1899, Appendix 3, page 359 -
> shows
> > 'Monks-Kirby' as one of a number of churches dedicated to St Edith [of
> > Polesworth - not to be confused with St Edith of Wilton], which sounds
> > fine.
> > Except that both Tamworth and Amington are included there under the
> > spelling
> > St Editha.
> >
> > WAR Records Office would seem to state it's St Editha - while the
> Census
> > Reports on Ecclesiastical Parishes 1891-1911 consistently show St
> Edith.
> >
> > What I'd like to do is see what the WAR VCH has to say on the matter -
> but
> > following my Crash back in December I lost my 'Favourites', and can no
> > longer find the site that includes this online... Any help from Out
> There
> > to
> > restore it would be welcomed!
> >
> >
> > I'd add that the 1871 and 1881 Census Reports state that "No complete
> list
> > of the Ecclesiastical Sub-divisions of the Country is published by the
> > Ecclesiastical Commissioners, the Diocesan Registrars, or any other
> > Authority ... "
> >
> > Maybe the 1851 Census of Religious Worship might give 'an' answer - as
> > perhaps might a selection from Crockfords Clerical Directories - but
> > contradictory spellings exist, while others would seem to have
> marginally
> > changed their names over the years, adding or deleting a single
> letter...
> >
> > You may well have strayed into a minefield here :-)
> >
> > Gus
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hunimex - Gmail Account" <>
> > To: "Warwick list" <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:16 AM
> > Subject: [WAR] St Edith(a) ? in Monks Kirby
> >
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> A quick project for anyone in the vicinity of Monks Kirby
> please........
> >>
> >> Can you verify the name of the church, perhaps get hold of a mini
> history
> >> of
> >> it, as there seems to be some confusion with the name - some are
> >> reporting
> >> St Edith and others St Editha.
> >>
> >> I'd like PPP to be right !!! At the moment, I have called it St
> >> Edith's
> >> church, lets hope I am correct
> >>
> >> Happy Hunting
> >>
> >> Pickard
> >>
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