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Subject: [VAROOTS] Meaning?
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 20:23:31 +0000


My Thanks go out to everyone that response to my Meaning question.

A number of you kind folks asked if I found out the translation would
I please let you know, so I though I would go ahead and let you know
what I received.

Bev wrote:

> Boy! I can't wait to see the answer! Your French that you "learned from John Smith
>
> stepping off the Susan Constant in the new world" was pretty good,. Your memory is doing well <G>
>
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Bob Juch wrote:

> I think it's the French description of the arms.
>
> A vine with a golden stock joined at its ?? of the aforementioned stock,
> vine branch of (sin. = sinister = left ?) and fruit of four bunches of azure
> grapes.
>
> Bob Juch
>
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> wrote:
>
>> French:
>> " D' OR A UN CEP, DE VIGNE, ACCOLE A SON ECHALAS, MOUV. DE LA P., LEDIT CEP,
>> PAMPRE DE SIN. ET FRUITE DE QUATRE GRAPPES DE RAISIN D' AZUR."
>>
>> English:
>> " OF GOLD A A STOCK, OF VINE, JOINS A ITS PROP, MOUV. P., THE AFOREMENTIONED
>> STOCK, VINE BRANCH OF SIN. AND FRUITE OF FOUR BUNCHES OF GRAPE OF AZURE."
>>
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Jen'ee Wrote:

> someone is drinking wine made from 4 grapes. Sounds itilian or spanish.
> Prob spanish. Jen'ee
>
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Marge wrote:

> Have no idea what it says...but has to do
> with grapes & raisens? Azure is blue.. did this family have vinyards...
> making wine?
> Marge
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Barbara gave us a real good site to try:

> This is a pretty thorough site on Heraldry.
> http://digiserve.com/heraldry/
>
> Enjoy.
> Barbara
>
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Everyone did agree pretty much that it is French. And looking at the
answers its seems grapes and wine are the main though.
This is a 'Bitter" Coat of Arms and I was also told this

When Translated the Blazon also describes the original colors :
"Gold: A grapevine tied to its vine, moving from the Point: the
grapevine green and 4 bunches of grapes Blue"
Above the shield and Helmet is the crest which is described as:
"The Objects of the Shield in the middle of two gold antique wings"



> The message is on a coat of arms for the surname "Bitter"
>
> " D' OR A UN CEP, DE VIGNE, ACCOLE A SON ECHALAS, MOUV.
> DE LA P., LEDIT CEP, PAMPRE DE SIN. ET FRUITE DE QUATRE GRAPPES
> DE RAISIN D' AZUR."
>
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Again Thank You all for your help and now I will move on to the history
of the Coat of Arms
Patti

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