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From: "Sylvan Scale Models" <>
Subject: [UK-W&H] Born in a workhouse with father's name
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:14:33 -0400
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Hi

Thanks for your reply. So far I have had any luck even with variations in
spelling of the fathers name--the obvious ones have been checked (HOLLIDAY,
HALIDAY etc.) to no avail. I also wondered if perhaps he was not the
father, but named. I also wondered if perhaps he fathered the child, but
died before its birth; but why the "occupation" for the father, and why no
mention of his death on the certificate? Not only that, the oldest child
emigrated to Canada as a home child, and she put her father's name on her
marriage certificate and did not indicate deceased, nor did one of her
brothers who remained in England; his marriage certificate names his father
and an occupation (that was a falsehood from my research so far) of
policeman. I have not found Archibald in any jails on any censuses so far;
at least not in the immediate area. Also have never found any death record
for him at any time. He just up and disappeared! He was born in Scotland;
perhaps he returned "home"? This is my brick wall for sure! There is some
family "mystery" here; as the mother's family lived in relative wealth in a
nearby town (well enough off to own their own separate house and have a live
in domestic), and yet they left their daughter and grandchildren to live in
the workhouse for at least 3+ years (up to seven or more possibly). None of
it seems quite right; but without the workhouse records it will be difficult
to straighten out what happened and why.

Cindy



----- Original Message -----
From: "MaryH" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-W&H] Born in a workhouse with father's name


> > Suggestions anyone on how to find out more about the father, Archibald
> > HALLIDAY??? Has anyone had a birth certificate with a father's name and
> > occupation listed where the father was actually deceased?
> >
> Hi Cindy,
>
> Yes I have seen a birth certificate where the father was deceased but this
> was stated on the certificate. Have you searched back some years for the
> fathers death. Its possible that he was not the father of the youngest
> although he is named on the certificate - this is also something I have
come
> across.
>
> I would also suggest you get at least one other certificate (if you
haven't
> already got them) as you may fin a variation in his name which may explain
> why you have not been able to find anything.
>
> It would be unusual for the family to be in the workhouse with father
still
> working. The workhouse principal was one in all in. The Guardians would
not
> have kept the family inside if the father was in employment. He may have
> been in prison, but this would be lengthy to check out.
>
> Good luck
> Mary Hallett - West Sussex
> Visit my Website at www.fourbears.worldonline.co.uk
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