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From: Fred Frevert <>
Subject: [UFT-L] Re: UFT-D Digest V98 #42
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:59:12 -0500

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> Subject:
>
> UFT-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 42
>
> Today's Topics:
> #1 Re: [UFT-L] lock up [Michael Willis Freeland <freelanm@]
> #2 [UFT-L] Re: UFT-D Digest V98 #40 []
> #3 [UFT-L] Viewing Root III imported []
> #4 RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again ["Scott, Mark S. (RIV)" <]
> #5 RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again ["Rhonda McClure" <]
> #6 [UFT-L] Re: UFT-D Digest V98 #41 [spooner <>]
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> Subject: Re: [UFT-L] lock up
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:33:59 -0700
> From: Michael Willis Freeland <>
> To:
>
> I've had this problem repeatedly, but only when I carelessly try
> to open UFT while other programs are running. I suspect that the
> problem is related to the fact that UFT 2.x is not a true 32-bit
> Windows 95 program, and therefore "misbehaves" when it is opened
> under memory conditions that it doesn't like. I have lost a LOT
> of work in other programs while carelessly opening UFT to check
> on something. My bet is that an improved version will be cobbled
> together when the current beta test of 2.x has run its course.
>
> Michael Willis Freeland
> <mailto:>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > When I try to start UFT form the widows icon it locks up the computer so that
> > it will not respond to cont-alt-del and the computer has to be shut down. How
> > can I fix this? John
>
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> Subject: [UFT-L] Re: UFT-D Digest V98 #40
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:31:00 EDT
> From:
> To:
>
> In a message dated 9/17/98 12:50:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, UFT-D-
> writes:
>
> <<
> I imported a gedcom file and the sources are there but I cannot get to them
> to
> edit them. When I try to edit the source seems blank but in another window I
> saw it and the others. How do you edit and correct imported sources? Thanks
> John >>
> I've had the same problem. The only way I have found to correct the missing
> sources is to go the window where the source appears correctly: click on edit,
> select all, copy. Go back to the window where you want to repeat the source,
> click on text, edit, paste.
>
> I don't know why some of these sources don't import correctly but I seem to
> have the problem mostly in the marriage evidence window. I think you will find
> when you print out a report such as a family group sheet, you'll have a blank
> line before "herein cited as____". I asked Palladium about this and they said
> to "click on the text file, go to the end, right click the mouse and move it
> down to the bottom of the screen. If I had highlighting, press delete. This
> works to get rid of the blank line. They are supposedly writing a macro so I
> don't have to go to each individual screen and correct it. I'll post it when I
> get it.
>
> These two problems seem unrelated but they are both the result of importing
> gedcoms.
>
> Pat
>
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> Subject: [UFT-L] Viewing Root III imported notes
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:52:25 EDT
> From:
> To:
>
> How can I view Roots3 imported notes. Where are they and is their anyway to
> do a trace s to what files are still using them.
>
> Dick Hahn
>
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> Subject: RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:22:00 -0400
> From: "Scott, Mark S. (RIV)" <>
> To:
>
> Rhonda,
> I agree that the single citation is probably best for Donald in this
> case. As I was checking my citations, Mills' book, & UFTree, I noted
> that the program contains a "Baptismal Record" source template with the
> following example:
>
> Maria Rosa San Martin (Xarame Indian), Baptismal entry, 22 March 1722,
> "Bautismos de los Indios de esta Mission . . . de S. Antonio," [original
> Baptismal Book 1, 1703-1783], Entry 107, Catholic Archives at San
> Antonio--Chancery Office, San Antonio, Texas.
>
> I also noticed that this example was contributed by: "Elizabeth Shown
> Mills, CG, CGL, FNGS, FUGA, FASG"
>
> Would one choose one or the other of these examples based on the number
> of citations from the source? That is, since Donald wants to cite the
> "Births and Baptisms" book several times he should use the "Book 7"
> format with notes but if there was only one event that was to be cited
> he would use the "Maria Rosa San Martin" format?
>
> Or is it ultimately just personal taste?
> Mark Scott
> ----------
> From: Rhonda McClure
> To:
> Subject: RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 10:20PM
>
> Donald,
>
> My personal way to do this is to base it on Elizabeth Shown
> Mills' example in Evidence!
>
> The citation would be:
>
> Book 7, Baptisms of Slaves, 1826-31: entry 31 (1830),
> unpaginated, Saint Francois Catholic Church, Natchitoches,
> Louisiana.
>
> Of course if it was paginated, then you would include the page.
>
> This would probably require creating a new Source Template. And
> you would want to create the "note" section for the part that
> has: entry 31 (1830), unpaginated
>
> I suggest this for the note section so that you can use the
> single source entry changing this part that is pertinent to the
> baptism in question.
>
> --
> Rhonda R. McClure
> Ultimate Family Tree Web Site Sysop
> (http://www.uftree.com)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald A Fraser [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 6:02 PM
> To:
> Subject: [UFT-L] Sources Again
>
> Thanks to everyone who jumped in on the discussion re Sources.
> At the risk
> of being accused of "Flogging a Dead Horse" I still have a couple
> of
> questions on the subject of Sources. Maybe an example will help
> clear the
> air. A book from the Presbyterian Church Records called Births
> and
> Baptisms records a birth and baptism date for four of my
> grandparents
> children, eight events. Now what would be the accepted method of
> reciting
> sources for these events? In common to all events is the book,
> location,
> repository, what is uncommon is the dates and the event, either
> birth or
> baptism and the name of the Minister. I could choose one source
> Abr.1
> Birth/Bap. Book, Abr.2 Presby. Ottawa, and use this for all eight
> events
> and add dates etc. as separate notes, or, build two sources one
> for the
> Baptism (Primary) and one for the Birth (Secondary). Thereby
> using one
> source for the four Baptisms and one for the four Birth events,
> or, build
> eight sources to cover each event individually by including the
> child's
> name in the Abr.1
> My interest is to cite the sources correctly, to conform to a
> recognized
> genealogical standard. I would like an opinion on which would be
> the
> correct method. Also keeping in mind the need to get the right
> information
> into printed reports.
> Don Fraser. ICQ 9567877. Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
>
> ______________________________
>
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>
> Subject: RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:15:50 -0400
> From: "Rhonda McClure" <>
> To:
>
> Scott,
>
> I guess if they don't want separate entries for each individual
> (which is what I think I heard Donald saying), then use the Book
> 7 style. For those who need to an individual entry, use the
> Baptismal Record template that has already been created.
>
> --
> Rhonda R. McClure
> Ultimate Family Tree Web Site Sysop
> (http://www.uftree.com)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott, Mark S. (RIV) [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:22 AM
> To: Rhonda McClure;
> Subject: RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again
>
> Rhonda,
> I agree that the single citation is probably best for Donald in
> this
> case. As I was checking my citations, Mills' book, & UFTree, I
> noted
> that the program contains a "Baptismal Record" source template
> with the
> following example:
>
> Maria Rosa San Martin (Xarame Indian), Baptismal entry, 22 March
> 1722,
> "Bautismos de los Indios de esta Mission . . . de S. Antonio,"
> [original
> Baptismal Book 1, 1703-1783], Entry 107, Catholic Archives at San
> Antonio--Chancery Office, San Antonio, Texas.
>
> I also noticed that this example was contributed by: "Elizabeth
> Shown
> Mills, CG, CGL, FNGS, FUGA, FASG"
>
> Would one choose one or the other of these examples based on the
> number
> of citations from the source? That is, since Donald wants to
> cite the
> "Births and Baptisms" book several times he should use the "Book
> 7"
> format with notes but if there was only one event that was to be
> cited
> he would use the "Maria Rosa San Martin" format?
>
> Or is it ultimately just personal taste?
> Mark Scott
> ----------
> From: Rhonda McClure
> To:
> Subject: RE: [UFT-L] Sources Again
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 10:20PM
>
> Donald,
>
> My personal way to do this is to base it on Elizabeth Shown
> Mills' example in Evidence!
>
> The citation would be:
>
> Book 7, Baptisms of Slaves, 1826-31: entry 31 (1830),
> unpaginated, Saint Francois Catholic Church, Natchitoches,
> Louisiana.
>
> Of course if it was paginated, then you would include the page.
>
> This would probably require creating a new Source Template. And
> you would want to create the "note" section for the part that
> has: entry 31 (1830), unpaginated
>
> I suggest this for the note section so that you can use the
> single source entry changing this part that is pertinent to the
> baptism in question.
>
> --
> Rhonda R. McClure
> Ultimate Family Tree Web Site Sysop
> (http://www.uftree.com)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald A Fraser [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 6:02 PM
> To:
> Subject: [UFT-L] Sources Again
>
> Thanks to everyone who jumped in on the discussion re Sources.
> At the risk
> of being accused of "Flogging a Dead Horse" I still have a couple
> of
> questions on the subject of Sources. Maybe an example will help
> clear the
> air. A book from the Presbyterian Church Records called Births
> and
> Baptisms records a birth and baptism date for four of my
> grandparents
> children, eight events. Now what would be the accepted method of
> reciting
> sources for these events? In common to all events is the book,
> location,
> repository, what is uncommon is the dates and the event, either
> birth or
> baptism and the name of the Minister. I could choose one source
> Abr.1
> Birth/Bap. Book, Abr.2 Presby. Ottawa, and use this for all eight
> events
> and add dates etc. as separate notes, or, build two sources one
> for the
> Baptism (Primary) and one for the Birth (Secondary). Thereby
> using one
> source for the four Baptisms and one for the four Birth events,
> or, build
> eight sources to cover each event individually by including the
> child's
> name in the Abr.1
> My interest is to cite the sources correctly, to conform to a
> recognized
> genealogical standard. I would like an opinion on which would be
> the
> correct method. Also keeping in mind the need to get the right
> information
> into printed reports.
> Don Fraser. ICQ 9567877. Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
>
> ______________________________
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: [UFT-L] Re: UFT-D Digest V98 #41
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:32:50 -0500
> From: spooner <>
> To:
>
> On the question of the lockup using the windows icon. I need to know if
> you are using Win 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, Win95, or Win98 and what version of
> UFT. If the icon was created for a DOS version, the resources need to
> be reassigned. If it is a windows version, is it a 16 or 32 bit
> program? Most likely the program is demanding the use of an area of
> memory already being used by a TSR such as a screen saver. This can be
> fixed, but the fix depends on the above questions. Feel free to contact
> me directly - I'll do my best for you.

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