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From: "M. Kent McMahan" <>
Subject: Re: [TURNBULL] Roots of John Bull Sr. of 1805 Grainger Co.,TN & 1806 Knox Co., KY
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:56:52 -0400
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So, you too have an unconnected Bull! If your William Bull was born ABT
1740 in VA, he may have been a Revolutionary War soldier. I see that Ernest
R. Cory's RootsWeb World Connect database has William married to an
Elizabeth and has William buried at Massies Creek in Greene Co., OH.
William MIGHT be related to the subject John Bull, who's said to SAID to
have been a Revolutionary War soldier from Virginia per my notes for John
Bull at the following link to my database page for him:
John's birth is estimated at ABT 1754 based on the estimated birth of his
eldest son, Richard Bull, in ABT 1775 (married in 1805), so John and William
appear to be of the same generation. John's youngest son was likely James
Bull (who I suppose was my ancestor James Turnbull b. 18 Dec 1788 in TN).
Three of John's sons also named sons William, so they have some common given
names with your William, though these names are common everywhere! Perhaps
your Ann Shaw Bull's middle name came from her mother.
It's an interesting coincidence that a descendant of your William Bull
married a descendant of your William Turnbull, who Pat Thomas' RootsWeb
database has was b. 29 Oct 1757 in Kelso, Roxburghshire, Scotland. I don't
see any possible connection between my Turnbulls (or the William Turnbull
imported to Prince William Co., VA in 1742) and your William Turnbull. As
you have apparently learned, the Turnbull surname was VERY common in
Scotland. Why the descendants of the subject John Bull changed their
surname to Turnbull is a mystery. My THEORY is that my James Bull changed
his surname to Turnbull after he moved from Knox Co., KY to St. Charles Co.,
MO Territory by 1817, having been drawn there by the legend of Daniel Boone.
The name "John Bull" had become synonymous with the English during and after
the War of 1812 and may have become an embarrassment to these Bulls during
their migration westward.
That's all that I can come up with at this time,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Wimer" <>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TURNBULL] Roots of John Bull Sr. of 1805 Grainger Co., TN &
1806 Knox Co., KY
> I have a William Bull b 1740 in Virgina he Died in 1811 Greene co Ohio,