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From: Hugh Nevin <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:06:46 -0500
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Sean,

Sorry to be so long in looking: I did not find either FEE or ROCHE in the Index of Irish Immigrants in the Land of Canaan.

Hugh

On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:14 PM, sean roche wrote:

>
> HI,
>
> I would be very interested in buying a copy of this book if it included any of my ancestors names - I know they went somewhere ???
>
>> From Ulster the surname of interest would be FEE, and from the West of Ireland/Galway I am looking for the ROCHE surname.
>
> REGARDS,
>
> SEAN
>
>
>
>
>> From:
>> To:
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:26:31 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter
>>
>> Hello List:
>>
>> Page three of "IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN THE LAND OF CANAAN" refers to a David
>> Lindsey and a letter he wrote from County Tyrone in 1758 to his Fleming
>> cousins in Pennsylvania (really New Jersey). Accumulated evidence suggests
>> that this man is my gggGrandfather David Lindsay.
>>
>> Because I (after much looking) was unable to initiate a new thread, I'm
>> adding this post in reply form. If this County Tyrone David Lindsey (or you
>> may be a descendent of Malcolm Fleming) is perhaps of interest to you, let
>> me know as I have 'stuff' to share!
>>
>> Linda, the "Start a new thread" instructions are: To post a new message on
>> any board, click on the "Begin New Thread" link in the upper portion of the
>> screen. This can be done at the home page of any board or when viewing a
>> specific message on a board.
>>
>> I simply could not follow these instructions . . . send help!
>>
>> Bob Lindsay
>>
>> Email Checked by Norton
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> [mailto:]On Behalf Of Hugh Nevin
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:24 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter
>>
>> Hello Tom,
>>
>> The book is IRISH IMMIGRANTS IN THE LAND OF CANAAN: LETTERS AND MEMOIRS
>> FROM COLONIAL AND REVOLUTIONARY AMERICA, 1675-1815. It is written and
>> edited by Kerby A. Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce D. Boling, and David N.
>> Doyle. Oxford University Press published it in 2003.
>>
>> Perhaps the best brief description of the book is in this Preface paragraph:
>> "Each of the book's chapters focuses on one or more specific immigrants and
>> on the documents they wrote or dictated. Thus, the chapters constitute a
>> series of historical essays, each can stand alone, but together they
>> represent at once the disparate character, the common themes, and the
>> mosaiclike texture of early Irish migration."
>>
>> I did not find Spier/Speer in the Index.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Tom Speer wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>> I am trying to trace the origin of a gggrandfather William Speer whose
>>> tombstone in Donegal gives his date of birth as 1781and age 84 years. He
>>> was a presbyterian who lived at Ballyboencuragh on the Ramelton road from
>>> Letterkenny. An 1847 survey of the then Manor Grove Estate shows a William
>>> Spier Sen. (and a William Spier Jun.) as tenants of part of
>> Ballyboencuragh.
>>> I should appreciate details of the book to which you refer as it seems
>>> relevant. Thank you and kind regards.
>>> Tom Speer
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Hugh Nevin" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter
>>>
>>>
>>>> Joe and Linda,
>>>>
>>>> I happened to be online as Linda's reply came in. I've just looked
>>>> quickly at the County Donegal listings in the Index of Irish Immigrants.
>>>> I didn't see the specific phrase. Of the two references that caught my
>>>> eye, the following (p. 107) seems a possible reference: "By at least the
>>>> 1720s the fertile parishes of east Donegal,...were a major source of
>>>> Presbyterian emigration that continued and perhaps accelerated after the
>>>> American Revolution."
>>>>
>>>> Hugh Nevin
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:07 AM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joe, actually it is from that book. I am busy and cannot promise you
>>>>> that I will find the time to research this for you. Perhaps try again.
>>>>> Google books is not likely to be useful for searching a book that is in
>>>>> copyright. The traditional way -- reading the book -- or using the index
>>>>> may help and if I get some time, I will try the index.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda Merle
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joe Flock" <>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:04:17 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Thoughts on replying to an American etc letter
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Linda,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this in Emigrants and Exiles? Do have the page reference or even the
>>>>> exact phrase? I have the book and have searched it several times but
>>>>> can't find this quote. I even tried using Google books to search it then
>>>>> reading the paper pages for the ones Google isn't displaying and still
>> no
>>>>> luck.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph Flock III
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides all that, Kirby Miller says in his book on Irish emigration that
>>>>> Donegal lost much of its population long before the (recent) Potato
>>>>> Famine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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