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Subject: Re: [S-I] Yup, the list is still here
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:46:40 +0000 (UTC)
I expect we should be surprised when people marry where they are supposed to instead of the opposite. It's pretty common!
Never again will I mutter to myself "This'll be easy" because a client only needs two generations done (back to Ireland). Nope -- besides the marriage in the wrong place, grandpa apparently never was born in Ireland nor were his parents! Couldn't find a man of his name in the county or his parents ((post Famine). Thank heavens grandma was easier to find. Grandpa was hiding from someone.
Common with Irish ancestors -- including Protestants fleeing the 1798 Rebellion. I suspect my Kelly ancestors were 1798 refugees. The received story of why they left was "The Protestants were killing us and the Catholics abandoned us". They were Covanantor. Supposedly County Down. However to know for sure we'd have to channel the dead. Lord knows there are enough Kellys in County Down. Alas, no Ydna unless we dig up a few.
Your place sounds mighty nice about this time of year. My tomato plants finally died. I was tired of eating tomatoes. The cilantro came back up after the summer, so I got it too. Sure do like cilantro. My Japanese mustard is up producing greens. I got huge kale plants on their second third winter.
This is a strange place. Italians founded this town on the Allegheny, which flows in a huge gully or canyon, creating a micro climate. There's a number of fig trees growing in town, though they remain small. A couple are wild and survive without assistance, further down 'the canyon' out of reach of cold winds.
First phone call about the foundling siamese. This lady would take him if I didn't keep him. Donno how he got lost, but he's no free cat any more. $135 and he goes back for shots next week. So if you can find one for $60 at the pound, vaccinated and neutered, it's a steal. This one's either a lynx point or a mutt. Maybe we'll know when he grows up. Or the breeder phones.
We finally got some frost here last week, but it's up in the 60s this week. Cold nights, though, near freezing.
Some people have beginners luck with the genealogy...but eventually they'll end up like the rest of us: stuck. Probably before they get to the Neanderthals.....
Linda Merle (again)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Nichols" <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:49:26 PM
Subject: Re: [S-I] Yup, the list is still here
Been finding family getting married NOT where they lived..gee. Racked my
brains for years trying to find out where my parents (who were both living
in Chicago..and could find no records) were married. Turned out they wound
up in Ft. Wayne, IN (who knows why..I sure don't and I was never clued in)
As to the Cumberland County stuff...at least the courthouse has a whole lot
of good records! They didn't burn down like the one in Cocke County, TN. I
was able to find records for Rev. John Steele, Capt. John Steele, Robert
Semple, and a whole bunch of others! And the War College there had some
interesting things to help out.
I just planted a tomato plant (kept in the house for our 17 degree below
normal days) and it is outside blooming, as are the pepper plants and
cilantro. The citrus grove down the road just opened up for the season with
fresh strawberries, squash, sweet corn, and oranges and a few pink
grapefruit. Now we are back up to the low 80's which is about normal for
now. We had frost 10 miles from here on Sunday. NOT NORMAL!
Been teaching a friend about genealogy..and that has been a riot. She kept
insisting she couldn't find anything. She was only looking for her mother
and her grandfather. Told her, go after the rest of the family and work in
all directions. Now her desk is covered..in two weeks. Next
ps. Okay, I know off subject, but some of us are still alive and kicking..a
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:15 PM
Subject: [S-I] Yup, the list is still here
> Hi folks, the list and rootsweb, in fact, all the web, is still here.
> Nothing is happening on the list because you haven't made a post. It's not
> like TV: you tune in and watch. Nope, you're part of the soap opera cast.
> So let us know what you're doing, what you'd like some advice with, who
> you are looking for, etc, and get a new thread started.
> Meanwhile, I am wondering if others have noticed the genealogy insider
> It's a good thing. Plus, even better, people are working on a new and
> improved gedcom (see article above).
> Another fun blog I recently found is the Ancestry Insider:
> This link above might take you to a quiz that lets you rate your
> genealogical maturity level. Although I can't say I think much of his
> attempts to get Ancestry to improve its presentation of sources. Mainly
> because I've given up! Good luck to him....
> Other than that I have been repotting houseplants and lugging them inside.
> Next year: fewer houseplants. Found a siamese kitten in the alley,
> starving and sick. Nursing him and taking him to vet, fixing things he
> knocks over, etc.
> Attended two genealogy conferences. One at the local Alley Kiski Valley
> group (all day series of lectures with John Coletta. He was wonderful) and
> a similar all day event at the North Hills Genealogical Society: Joy Mills
> spoke all day, interspersed with manicotti and bagels. This latter was a
> huge success for the group, drawing genealogists from ten states.
> I am not a member of the North Hills group as none of my ancestors lived
> over thar but rather in Butler, Westmoreland, and north east Allegheny
> County (Pennsylvania). That's probably because you can't get there from
> here. It means going due west. That's impossible to do due to ridges. To
> get there I have to take the Turnpike north and circle down. Or go south
> on 28 towards Pittsburgh (risking traffic jams) and take a valley north.
> No wonder none of my ancestors are from there. They couldn't get there!
> However now my sister lives over there and someday my parents' graves will
> be there. Why? they never lived there.
> The answer is that my mother was one of eight children. Her parents all
> had siblings, esp. her mother. A number of these died leaving an ever
> growing number of unused cemetery plots. If you thought it was hard to
> sell re estate, try cemetery plots. Since these are in the North Hills, I
> assume this culprit was a German living in Glenshaw. They devolved to my
> grandmother who was buried near her home, and then to her unmarried
> daughters (these people were, after all, largely Irish), who chose to be
> potted nearby. And they left it all to my mother. She gifted my sister in
> law with a number when her son by a prior marriage died three years ago at
> age 29. My sister in law bought a marble bench and some other stuff and
> turned it into a nice looking place. She read my brother the riot act:
> either he can retire with her to Pittsburgh or the North Hills or he gets
> divorced. So it's the North Hills for him, too. And that's where they'll
> be buried. So my father said -- put him there too!
> . He still has my mother's ashes and they can go in there as well. So for
> the last two years we have a 'family plot' in an area no one has ever
> lived in. So someday some one will say "WHY were these people buried
> there?" It's the fault of some Germans in Glenshaw a hundred years before
> who failed to use their plots.
> I personally would prefer to be flung into the Allegheny River (preferably
> after cremation): "Go with the flow". (This comment caused my father to
> say "What? You are refusing to be buried in the family burial ground?" No,
> I refuse to accept it is the family burial ground <grin>. ) My tombstone
> (up here) may say "They're all in the North Hills, don't ask me why".
> However, we're still alive, so it's not too late to add some documentation
> to your family information to avoid descendants bugging somebody someday
> about "WHY did they get married THERE?" So write it down now.
> I had a client whose Catholic parents lived in Pittsburgh all their lives.
> No marriage license. Shacked up? Nope. Married in a different county. Why?
> We don't know. What was wrong with getting hitched in the old home parish,
> folks? Donno.
> Then there was the couple in dear old Mother Cumberland County,
> Pennsylvania, who in the late 1700s married in Maryland. From Maryland?
> Nope. It wasn't till almost 1800 that the boundary among PA, MD, and VA
> was settled so maybe they thought they were in Pennsylvania. At that date
> Virginia was holding county courts in western Pennsylvania. It's possible
> they hadn't yet erected the gigantic wall between Maryland and
> Pennslyvania to keep the Marylanders out and the Pennsylvanians In. ....
> Oh, they still haven't gotten it done. Durn, still people slipping over
> the border and marrying in the wrong place. Why? Donno...... So please,
> document why you got married in the wrong place. . My descendants will
> never find my marriage certificate in a million years. I did get married,
> This is very boring, so please help out and post something interesting.
> Linda Merle SI Admin
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