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From: "Edward Andrews" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] New Commercial Website in County Down
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:04:41 +0100
You are an American with roots, among other places in Northern Ireland, or
probably more exactly in the part of Ireland which became Northern Ireland
for there was no such thing as Northern Ireland before 1922.
Northern Ireland has a history of two polarised communities sharing the
same territory, rather than living together. For shorthand these are the
Protestant and the Roman Catholic Communities. Prior to the beginning of the
20th Century there was considerable inter marriage between the two
communities, but for political and religious reasons this became less
likely. Now 40 years since the beginning of the "Troubles" the situation is
90 90. 90% of the communities live in areas where 90% of the community are
of the same religion
Scotch Irish is an American term for those who have a particular settlement
pattern. Ulster Scot is what we probably call ourselves - though actually t
has to be remembered that many of the Protestant Community, who would use
this term actually have their roots in England.
Orange is a short hand term for Protestants because some of them were
members of the Orange Order which gained and retains considerable political
power in Northern Ireland.
While the Grammar Schools (semi Private Secondary Schools, usually
Protestant) hold St Patrick's day as an important day because there is a
Rugby (a game like American Football, except without the padding) game on
that day, St Patrick's Day tends to be celebrated by the Roman Catholic
Community. It was not a time of great jollification at one time, when I was
at University in Dublin all the pubs were shut as it was a fast day being a
saint's day in Lent (so I was told). I think that there is a more relaxed
situation now and much more tourist business in Dublin then.
This is really an area which is covered by Scotch Irish Culture.
If you think that you are Scotch Irish it is necessary to understand the
history of the Community and how your particular religious group and
settlement pattern fits in.
Edward Andrews who is an Ulster Scot, born in Ulster, now living in
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> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [S-I] New Commercial Website in County Down
> Linda .... thank you for the info on the Scotch-Irish .....
> but parts of me are still confused ....
> it has come down my family that we were from Northern Ireland
> .... and my GrandPa always wore Orange on St.
> Patricks Day .....
> Am I Scotch-Irish .... am I Ulster ... or just somene who
> also wears the Orange on St. Pat's Day ???
> so confused ...
> Mill Ryan ~
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> Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 1:41 pm
> Subject: [S-I] New Commercial Website in County Down
> Hi folks,
> I was asked to announce this website:
> t http://www.ulster-scot.com
> It's often been said that history has united the Irish and
> divided the cotch-Irish. For example they were key players on
> both sides of the American ivil War. Once people emigrated
> from Ulster they tended to define a new culture n their new
> land and quickly fell away from events in Ulster, where
> ethnicity nd culture evolved onward -- differently. So while
> many Ulster Scots leaving or America in the 1770s and later
> were very republican (in a French sense) and y the 1790s
> United Irishmen in sentiment, cousins who remained in Ulster
> gelled nto Unionists. So we became different.
> So this website above may or may not feel 'like you',
> depending on who and where ou are. It's easier to put up a
> shamrock website that appeals world wide!
> It has some nice items. I liked the linens and the postcards
> in particular. I ot a lot of Orange music and I like it a lot
> as well. I am too fat and fear iabetes, so I can't order the
> candy <grin>. I don't buy sports paraphenalia, ot even the
> Pittsburgh Steelers (for one thing, I don't like looking like
> a uge bumble bee.....) Back to life. Got curtain rod and
> curtains up (had to hire a guy to help). Now V don't work:
> which connector that came out goes where??!!!!!
> Linda Merle
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