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From: "Karen" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:46:35 -0400
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Well, it was pre-starvation, I think, but certainly small (read, tiny)
farmers were not wealthy at all, and I imagine times were quite hard.
Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Louise Acheson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan


>I have this same problem. They came in 1840. No other info about from where
> in Ulster. I wonder what was happening in 1840 to come here??? Your info
> might help me thanks Linda-from Louise
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: <>
> Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan
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>> Hi Karen,
>>
>> It's good you are trying to learn how your parents got from Armagh to
>> Canada in 1840. The way you research this is to study the methodology.
>> You
>> can do this by buying or borrowing books on the topic, attending lectures
>> on records documenting Canadian immigration from Ulster, downloading
>> lectures, reading them free on line, googling. A summary is here:
>> http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm
>>
>> The first thing you will notice is that Canada didn't begin to keep
>> records with a few exceptions till 1865. You may then notice your date is
>> before this. So how long do you want to try to learn about an event that
>> may well not be documented in any record, anywhere? You can spend 20 or
>> 30
>> years doing this, or 50 or more. At the end you could be very grouchy and
>> none the wiser. There are strategies for locating information -- in
>> family
>> histories, county histories, etc, etc, etc, etc. I often cite
>> www.genealogical.com/university.html as a place to go to. It has a chart
>> that details the possible sources to find information about migration.
>> You
>> can also improve your analysis skills and learn how to analyze the data
>> you already have to indentify clues that you have overlooked. This sounds
>> immensely boring and unexciting, but I only hope that when I get back to
>> my family history I have overlooked some of the astonishing buried
>> treasures found in what clients of mine have sent.
>>
>> Still, if no one documented the name of the ship in your family, you may
>> have to channel them from the other side. Even this is risky. I assume,
>> anyway, if we called back my great aunt, who migrated at the age of 4
>> with
>> her family from Scotland in 1893 and who in her later years wrote a
>> letter
>> documenting what she knew, that she'd give the same ship name as she did
>> in her letter. Unfortunately, she was wrong. It didn't take long to
>> discover that no su ch ship as she named existed in 1893 or ever lugged
>> people from Scotland to the USA. However there was a similar named ship.
>> Sure enough, I found them on a passenger list for THAT ship. Move back
>> another hundred years or more -- there are plenty of errors in our holy,
>> received family histories. Sometimes you gotta work around the family
>> history <grin>. Or the opinions of deceased ancestors called back from
>> the
>> grave to the spiritual circle.....
>>
>> I'd check Filby and then turn to hunting up oral family history that has
>> been preserved in collateral lines, if not your own.
>>
>> Linda Merle
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karen" <>
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:37:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan
>>
>> Mary, how did you learn the ship they cdamne on? I'm trying to larn how
>> my
>> great great grandparents got from Co. Armagh to Canada in 1840. Many
>> thanks,
>> Karen
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mary Widener" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [S-I] Mitchell, Scotch/Irish New York to Michigan
>>
>>
>>
>> My Scotch Irish came to Abbeville, S. Carolina in 1767 from Belfast.
>> Directly to Charleston, S. Carolina, have the ship they came over on and
>> the
>> land they were given, Matthew and James SHANKS, Matthew the father, his
>> wife
>> died enroute from Belfast and James was only about 4 or 5 years old when
>> they arrived. James had an uncle who had previously come over, a Robert
>> WILSON
>> Mary Widener
>>
>> --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Sarah <> wrote:
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