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Subject: Re: [S-I] Migration of 1718 group from Casco Bay to Northampton Co.,PA
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:57:50 EDT

An interesting parallel. Fifteen or more families of the Palatines
settled in the Mohawk Valley of New York made the trek overland from Schoharie to
the region in then Lancaster County PA drained by Tulpehocken and Swatara
creeks. Conrad Weiser wrote in his journal, "the people received news from
the land at Swatara and Tulpehocken in Pennsylvania. Many of them came
together, cut a way from Schoharie to the Susquehanna and brought their goods
there and made canoes and journeyed down to the mouth of the Swatara Creek
and drove their cattle overland in the spring of 1723. Thence they came
to the Tulpehocken settlement; later others followed and settled there, at
first without permission of the owner of the land or company, or from the
Indians from whom the people had not yet bought the land." Weiser, Journal,
as quoted in Walter A. Knittle, Early Eighteenth Century Palatine
Emigration (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1937), 205-206.

In a message dated 3/30/2010 2:45:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

This is fascinating, Dan. Maybe a Casco to PA migration is not a chimera!

If you ever come upon the source and even the full quote at some
point, I'd love to receive them. And I'd appreciate it if you'd
remembered me in your future research, as I will you, from now on!

What family surname are you tracking in this potential Casco to PA and
thence to East TN?

Mine is a County Londonderry Smith family. Current exploration in
faraway East Tennessee (quite out of the normal comfort zone for me in
research) is the result of DNA testing – as Linda reminds us very good
value for the money spent!

A stunning DNA match (66 markers out of 67) between a Smith with a
strong paper trail to the Smith family probably on the 1718 Ulster
ship that wintered in Casco Bay, settled in NH in 1719, and whose
specific line emigrated to Quebec c1800 and an East Tennessee Smith,
without much paper trail, but who *might* be connected to a Smith
family in Northhampton, PA in the 1700s and migrated to NC and TN from
there. These PA-NC-TN Smiths were Scotch-Irish and theoretically,
might have split from the Smith family who remained in NH. That's the
theoretical construct for analysis at the moment.

Anybody with insight on *any* aspect of this, info much appreciated.

Ottawa, Canada

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Daniel Wilson <> wrote:
> I too have been searching for some hard evidence of the migration from
> Casco Bay to Northampton Co., PA. I haven't read Collier's book, but
> I've seen a quote attributed to William Egle, former PA State Historian
> and prolific writer of PA history. I don't have the exact quote on hand
> but it was something in his attempt to explain the so-called "irish
> Settlement" which began at Mt. Bethel, PA not far from Easton, PA, and
> spread west to the Lehigh River around Allentown, PA. In his statement
> he mentions the difficult winter at Casco Bay and the migration to
> eastern PA. There is also an anecdote that the group got lost on the
> way, and thought they were settling in NY, so they named their
> settlement the "Hunter Settlement" supposedly in honor of the Governor
> of NY at the time. A contingent from the Hunter Settlement moved on to
> E. TN and settled around Greenville, Greene Co., TN ca. 1791, where they
> founded the Mt. Bethel Presbyterian church, named in remembrance of
> their former home in PA. If you want more specific information, let me
> know, and I'll dig out what I have.
> Dan Wilson

>>From: "Ruth McLaughlin" <>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:52 PM
>>To: <>
>>Subject: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from
NH to PA in 1719

>>Is anyone familiar with this 1719 movement of families from New
Hampshire to PA, after the terrible winter in Casco Bay?


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