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Subject: Re: [S-I] Migration of 1718 group from Casco Bay to Northampton Co., PA
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:10:13 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi Ruth, thanks for this information! I alas have not researched anyone in this Casco Bay to PA
migration, though it is believed many left New England for Pennsylvania in the early 1700s. Not only was
the climate improved, but Pennsylvania offered freedom of religion and, in the early 1700s, welcomed them.
So wonder is any remained. Once in PA, the next generation moved down the wagon road into Virginia. Many VIrginianas moved to Tennessee after the Revolution, esp. eastern TN. Depending on the area of TN,
they might have gotten a grant due to military service in North Carolina. Virginia soldiers received land in
the future Kentucky, not TN. But by the time the soldiers came to TN, eastern TN was largely in private
hands so the military grants are in the middle and west, with some federal land grants as well. I had to do
some research in the area. I'm no expert. A lot of the indexes are microfimed and in LDS, but in the end
we had to use an expert to search the original North Carolina landgrants, which he found. The grant
was missing from the TN state copy. The guy charged us $3 or some such amount to send us the grant.
(not $300 like we were charged for a probate packet once....grrrrrr.....).

However your experience where a surprising DNA match sets you off on another direction is somewhat
typical. In my one situation, where we were looking for matches to Virginia (To TN) settlers from the 1770s,
our match was to an Australian! He had excellent proof of descent from a man in a town in Tyrone. We
knew about this man but no proof of relationship till the DNA match half the way around the world.

It's possible that the Londonderry family sent other sons to America independently of Casco Bay. This is called 'chain migration'. So you cannot create a link between Casco Bay and TN because the link is back
to Ireland.

With a common name like Smith a good DNA match is really appreciated.

Linda Merle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth McLaughlin" <>
To: ,
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:45:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [S-I] Migration of 1718 group from Casco Bay to Northampton Co., PA

This is fascinating, Dan. Maybe a Casco to PA migration is not a chimera!

If you ever come upon the source and even the full quote at some
point, I'd love to receive them. And I'd appreciate it if you'd
remembered me in your future research, as I will you, from now on!

What family surname are you tracking in this potential Casco to PA and
thence to East TN?

Mine is a County Londonderry Smith family. Current exploration in
faraway East Tennessee (quite out of the normal comfort zone for me in
research) is the result of DNA testing – as Linda reminds us very good
value for the money spent!

A stunning DNA match (66 markers out of 67) between a Smith with a
strong paper trail to the Smith family probably on the 1718 Ulster
ship that wintered in Casco Bay, settled in NH in 1719, and whose
specific line emigrated to Quebec c1800 and an East Tennessee Smith,
without much paper trail, but who *might* be connected to a Smith
family in Northhampton, PA in the 1700s and migrated to NC and TN from
there. These PA-NC-TN Smiths were Scotch-Irish and theoretically,
might have split from the Smith family who remained in NH. That's the
theoretical construct for analysis at the moment.

Anybody with insight on *any* aspect of this, info much appreciated.

Ottawa, Canada

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Daniel Wilson <> wrote:
> I too have been searching for some hard evidence of the migration from
> Casco Bay to Northampton Co., PA. I haven't read Collier's book, but
> I've seen a quote attributed to William Egle, former PA State Historian
> and prolific writer of PA history. I don't have the exact quote on hand
> but it was something in his attempt to explain the so-called "irish
> Settlement" which began at Mt. Bethel, PA not far from Easton, PA, and
> spread west to the Lehigh River around Allentown, PA. In his statement
> he mentions the difficult winter at Casco Bay and the migration to
> eastern PA. There is also an anecdote that the group got lost on the
> way, and thought they were settling in NY, so they named their
> settlement the "Hunter Settlement" supposedly in honor of the Governor
> of NY at the time. A contingent from the Hunter Settlement moved on to
> E. TN and settled around Greenville, Greene Co., TN ca. 1791, where they
> founded the Mt. Bethel Presbyterian church, named in remembrance of
> their former home in PA. If you want more specific information, let me
> know, and I'll dig out what I have.
> Dan Wilson

>>From: "Ruth McLaughlin" <>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:52 PM
>>To: <>
>>Subject: [S-I] a question about a possible Scotch-Irish migration from NH to PA in 1719

>>Is anyone familiar with this 1719 movement of families from New Hampshire to PA, after the terrible winter in Casco Bay?


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