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From: "john shearer" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!!
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:31:56 -0000
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In my experience you are absolutely correct but I would suggest that there are several valid but different positions. a) The view of Protestant Scots Irish who returned to Scotland, when they arrived and how their view evolved after a period of assimilation. b) The view of Irish who came to Scotland, when they arrived and how their view evolved after a period of assimilation. c) The view of Protestant Scots Irish who migrated to the USA, when they arrived and how their view evolved after a period of assimilation. d) The view of Irish who migrated to the USA, when they arrived and how their view evolved after a period of assimilation. And there will be variations on the above depending upon education and whether or not people were involved in mixed marriages. I think most people on this list are tracing ancestors who moved from Ireland to the USA from Northern Ireland. I suspect you and I are in the minority who are tracing ancestors who moved from Ireland and Northern Ireland to Scotland. Regards John S. -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Donnalangbank Sent: 08 March 2010 10:41 To: Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! But my husbands Presbyterian relatives who moved from donegal to Scotland in 1912 used to say they were Scottish as being Irish was not seen as a good thing!!! Sent from my iPhone On 7 Mar 2010, at 21:32, Penny Bonnar <> wrote: > I know. I realized after I sent the link that it was only Scottish. > > Then I looked for other sites, but there really isn't much. > > On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:03 PM, wrote: > >> Hi Penny, Cute, but we're not Scottish <grin>. Once you landed in >> Ulster you were living in a new political climate and you changed. >> There doesn't seem to have been nearly as many kilts (after the >> Plantation at least) or haggis -- which you can see immediately was >> an improvement. On the negative side the natives were unfriendly >> but on the other hand, they had very good looking daughters. The >> fake highland stuff wouldn't do anyway -- only highlanders wore >> them, before they were made unlawful. Our lowland Scots ancestors >> would >> as soon appear in public in a kilt as Andrew Jackson would have >> been caught walking around in Washington >> DC in a loincloth with tomahawk! Lowland Scots were as fond of >> highlanders as Andy was of Indians, too. >> However now it is big money to sell you some itchy wool so who >> cares about the truth. >> >> The climate in east Ulster at least was pretty good, so we grew a >> lot of different kinds of grains. Even today in Belfast the >> bakeries are full of all kinds of breads you will find no where >> else in Ireland -- or even perhaps Scotland. In fact the parent of >> the famous southern breakfast is the Ulster breakfast. The north >> coast is not called the Chlorestorol Coast for no good reason. If >> your mother, like mine, though her ancesters had left Ireland 250 >> years before, was still enjoying a lot of different breads -- >> that's a sign that she was an Ulster girl. >> >> So if you go to Ulster this summer, diet before hand so you will >> have more room for the food. >> >> I found an image, maybe a little too Ulstery -- but this is a >> challenge for us Americans to come up with something not Scottish >> and not even Ulster. If only I had a photie of my grandfather's >> favorite goat. I'd even use this bitmap of tartan that I inherited, >> but I know the ancestor brought it from Scotland: >> http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merle/Family/Tartan.htm >> >> So it won't do either.... But King Billy will do for now because if >> our ancestors were Protestants in Ireland, they were on his side. >> If your immediate ancestors tell other stories, it's a sign they >> were either brainwashed recently or your family assimilated after >> 1600. Which is an important clue. Many Irish did, as the DNA shows. >> If your DNA is Irish, be happy. What was Scotland once but an Irish >> colony? Your ancestors christianized the >> heathenish Scotti (ex Irish, themselves) and the Picts of Alba. >> Feel proud! >> >> Linda Merle >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Penny Bonnar" <> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 3:25:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [S-I] Okay Bit-Map People!! >> >> Maybe something here? >> >> http://www.scottish-crafts.co.uk/clipart.htm >> >> >> On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:56 PM, wrote: >> >>> I can't find a good image for the genealogy wise list. I did try a >>> bitmap of King Billy but it was apparently too big and didn't >>> work. Unfortunately we are not the most visually graphic people on >>> the planet, I see (again) searching the Internet. >>> >>> Anyone know of a little orange lily or something that'll work >>> (that is either in the public domain or the owner will let us use)? >>> >>> What is sad is all these images are from Ulster -- what has >>> America got to offer, I wonder? (Don't look at me, I'm apparently >>> too Scotch Irish to HAVE anything visual!!!!). >>> >>> Does anyone have a clever loyalist son or daughter who can make a >>> little bitmap? >>> >>> And does anyone want to start an Ulster Scots, Canadian Ulster >>> Scots, etc, group???? (Or are you all too busy drinking green beer >>> to network for your heritage?) >>> >>> Off to find NewDog who ran away on his walk today.....he has my >>> phone number on his collar so he'll be back... Maybe now we know >>> how the little bugger became homeless in the first place <grin>. >>> >>> Linda Merle >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message