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From: "Edward Andrews" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] The Seceders
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:23:53 -0000
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Thank you for the kind comments.
I have also been asked to do a piece about confessions and subscription, so
I'll try and get round to both.
Basically the Seceders were very strict in their Church Discipline. Your
description of your Grandfather would fit the bill, though this behaviour
was not unusual in Irish Presbyterianism generally. The main body of
Seceders had been involved with the setting up of the General Assembly of
the Presbyterian Church in Ireland in 1840. There was of course a Scottish
Seceders Church in Belfast until (I think) the 1950s.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [mailto:scotch-irish-
> ] On Behalf Of Edward Stephenson
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:09 PM
> To:
> Subject: [S-I] The Seceders
> Edward Andrews wrote a wonderful note on "Arianism" in the Irish and
> Scottish Presbyterian Churches. I'd like to ask him to write a bit about
> the Seceders and compare them to the Ulster Synod. I've read that the
> Seceder Church was founded in 1779 by four Scottish ministers in reaction
> to "dry" preaching and the influence of lairds in selecting local
> ministers. In Ireland, it merged back with the Ulster Synod in 1840. But
> how, in practice did the Seceders differ from the Ulster Synod members.
> For example, were they stricter in church discipline and Sabbath keeping?
> My great-grandparents were married in the 2nd Presbyterian Church of
> Cootehill, Co. Cavan in 1848. Second Pres had been a Seceder
> congregation. I have no family lore about them, but I do know my
> grandfather was a strict Sabbath-keeper -- no work, no play, just church,
> Bible study, personal mediation, and family devotions on Sundays.
> Ed Stephenson
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