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From: "Karen" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] Wilson of Artrea, Co. Londonderry
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:22:13 -0400
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Linda, I see I should have read this one before I asked you your preference.
Thanks for this information.
Karen
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Subject: Re: [S-I] Wilson of Artrea, Co. Londonderry


> Hi Andrew, this kind of request is perfectly germane to this list. A
> couple suggestions. You have townlands, you say? Then be sure to use local
> history sources. See Ryan "Irish Records", "Researching Scots-Irish
> Ancestors", etc. There are often helpful books on families in a given
> location.
>
> You have to learn how to do something that many say is impossible -- trace
> Irish families (ie families in Ireland) before the advent of church
> records that contain most. Most Irish people were Catholics. A minority
> were Protestants. Protestants who attended the CHurch of Ireland (or who
> had to show evidence that they conformed to retain land or office after
> the penal laws) are in the Church of Ireland records, but most were
> Presbyterians, Quakers, Methodists, etc. They're not.
>
> However Protestants are named in records like militia lists, etc, a whole
> set of odd records that you can use. See above. Plus estate records. See
> earlier post today on those.
>
> Possibly though the only way to get much further is DNA. You can spend 20
> years and $2000 or more (a LOT more) doing genealogy and get not very far.
> You can spend $300 on DNA and know -- if you learn a little about how to
> do DNA research. Go to www.familytreedna.com and join the Ulster Heritage
> Project. Expect to need a 67 marker tests. The DNA in Ulster and Scotland
> is SO alike that you end up needing that degree of testing. Without 67
> markers, frankly, the experts will not waste the time of day on you. Feel
> free to start with 37 and then decide. I've seen a lot of cases that are
> ambiguous at 37 and clear as a bell at 67.
>
> As I said above, what you set out to do is impossible -- according to most
> of the people who teach classes in Irish genealogy. That means it is a
> little difficult and sometimes actually is impossible! Protestants are
> easier, but their names are all so common like Wilson. Not too far back,
> they had a different surname or none at all. The same DNA test that sorts
> out the Wilsons will tell you where they came from in Scotland or England
> or if they at native Irish (aka "Ulster Irish"). The admin of the Ulster
> Heritage DNA project is needed to make such a judgement call. If your DNA
> is particularly interesting, he can get the scientists in Dublin to study
> it. To get his full attention you will need to pay him a retainer fee. It
> is still far cheaper than paying someone like me to try to do your family
> history and more likely to be successful. Just found a pro in Munster --
> gets 57 Euros an hour. As I said...expensive. Makes the DNA look real
> cheap.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Linda MErle
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Denton" <>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:49:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [S-I] Wilson of Artrea, Co. Londonderry
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> This is my first posting, so please forgive me if this type of query
> should
> be made elsewhere.
>
>
>
> I am searching for anything and everything I can find about a Wilson
> family
> living on town lands near Magherafelt, Artrea, Co. Londonderry around
> 1800.
> Robert Cunningham Wilson (b. circa 1770) appears on the 1796 Flax Growers
> List in Artrea. He was born in Coagh and he married Mary Wylie of
> Coolshinny (Coolshinney). Two of their children were Nancy Wilson (Mrs.
> James McMurtry) and Robert Wilson, a weaver by trade, who married Fanny
> Rogers. Both of these families migrated to the Ottawa Valley, Canada in
> the
> 1820's.
>
>
>
> I know there were a fair number of Wilsons in Ulster, so I will be most
> grateful for any leads, hints and suggestions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Andrew Denton
>
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