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Subject: Re: [S-I] SMGF.org and Campbells, anyone?
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:14:26 +0000 (UTC)
SMGF definitely does not send notification. Read the FAQ on their website. However it is free. The learning curve (and the wait) is steep.
You can offset with http://www.genetree.com . They found my results (a mere eight years later) for my Mtdna sample. SMGF is working on my father's maternal line now. My mother's was SO interesting we wanted to know what my grandmother's maternal ancestors were doing. (My father's maternal line is not yet in the database -- it's been a year).
Sorenson is privately funded. It collects samples free and apparently tests them based on their own research. Your role is donator. It is not like the other firms where you pay. As you are a customer, these firms have a customer service department. Sorenson doesn't. We aren't its customers, more like its lab rats (only cuter).
However Sorenson will ship you a bag of kits free for your next genealogy society meeting, for example. While waiting for your results you can figure out how to interpret them. That'll take a year or two!
You can subscribe to a list to get feedback on y our kit results free:
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/DNA/DNA-NEWBIE.html . Again, you get what you pay for so don't expect much for $0.00.
This is the main list http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/DNA/GENEALOGY-DNA.html . Most of its posts are not understandable. The scientists, etc, are on it, sorting stuff out. Notice is made when a new paper is published -- almost always in PDF these days. About 10 minutes after your paper is published the list starts to critique your methodology and findings. Things move fast. Most of this we cannot understand but you do pick it up. All the main firms have information on their websites.
The Genealogy DNA list is a good place to ask questions and to post your results. They are usually kind. The way you do that is you upload them to www.ysearch.org. It's a click at Family Tree DNA; otherwise you carefully enter the values. Ysearch is a warehouse of results, keyed by a member number and with some description like your ancestor's name and place. No way to connect it to YOU. However scientists can use it to do research. You are donating your results. I was contacted not long about by a French scientist about my dad's DNA. He explained to me how he has a unique marker value and what it could mean. Got a lot of free information from him, in other words.
The way you do it is you provide your ysearch kit number and ask. Don't type in the numbers. Everyone'll hit delete.
Another resource to be aware of is http://www.isogg.org/ . It has a lot of information as teaching about DNA genealogy is its task. You can join and/or use its resources. It lists a number of consultants you can pay. These folk 'live' on the genealogy DNA list where they voice their opinions for free -- in a short email if your DNA sparks their interest. Unfortunately these days you need at least 37 markers to tell much. If you expect people to pay attention to 12 marker results -- probably ain't happening. Silence. To get attention up grade to 37 or more.
Most of the scientists focus on a particular type of DNA and know a lot about it. The expert on Ulster DNA is Barra McCain. For expertise in particular surnames/families, you locate family/surname projects.
I know that there is work underway with the Campbells, esp. Donegal. Apparently a lot of galloglaich came there in the late Middle Ages -- often belonging to one 'sept' as indicated in DNA and sending various spurs to the USA. I believe the place in Scotland of origin is located. Donno. Didn't purchase the report results.As they are proprietary....couldn't post them here anyway.
However if anyone is researching CAMPBELL in colonial VA or PA with DNA results, could you email me? I'm working on a man who was b. right before the Revolution in probably either PA or VA. In late 1700s lived in Washingto Co, PA area and then bought land in what is now Hancock Co, WV. Some kinda relationship (DNA) to the York Co Campbells who also settled in this area. Need to get more DNA results to be sure. Not the son of John Campbell (from York) as his son John moved to Ohio, not Virginia. This man seems to be a singleton -- despite many Campbells about, they didn't serve as bondsmen for his mortgage in VA, etc. However his DNA shows he's part of this galloglaich grouping -- in Ulster long before the Plantation, though "Scotch Irish" in America (if Catholic he'd most likely be in Maryland, Adams Co PA, or what would become Seton Hill area around Greensburg, PA). This family was Presbyterian.
Campbell report was done and the research is continuing at www.ulsterheritage.com . Get results from www.familytreedna.com and join the project there -- the software automatically sorts you into the right grouping.
Right now gathering info on Campbells in Washington/Hancock Co areas. This includes of the course the famous Rev. Campbell who founded the Disciples of Christ. The John I'm looking for (settled in what would be New Cumberland, not Bethany) was there before the Revs (who are from Co Down and Antrim, btw). Donno what their DNA is ---- haven't tried to figure it out.
Linda Merle -sheriff, genealogist and smgf lab rat! (Cage 1345343....with the pink nose and the nasty bite)
----- Original Message -----
From: "TODD KERRY BRANDOFF" <>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:59:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [S-I] SMGF.org
I think you just have to keep looking for your family names/locations
and can figure out from the info that it is yours. I sent mine in a few
months ago also and it has not shown up yet on the site. I suspect
that SMGF does not send a notification.
----- Original Message -----
From: Connie Shotts<mailto:>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [S-I] SMGF.org
I sent in my kit for SMGF a few months ago. How do you know when your
results are posted? Does SMGF notify you that they have completed the