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From: "Karen" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] Scots in Ulster
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:45:52 -0500
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Do you know the website for "Jane Wiley's site?" Can you share it please?
Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Margaret" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [S-I] Scots in Ulster


> Hi Karen,
>
> I hear your frustration and have experienced much of the same in my own
> journey to establish my roots.
>
> Have you tried Jane Wiley's site? She's a distant rellie of mine, who has
> an extensive data base on early families in the Nova Scotia/New Brunswick
> area.
>
> My own "branch" of Ulster Scots, fought in the reserves at the Battle of
> the
> Plains of Abraham in 1759, and depending on which record of history you
> read, a cousin of my ancestor, by the name of Colonel Alexander McNutt was
> either the greatest entrepreneur or the greatest shyster that ever existed
> In "Nova Scotia" in the latter part of the 1700's and early 1800's.
> William
> McNutt, my ancestor, was the captain of the first boatload of Ulster Scots
> to settle in Canada after 1759. They landed in 1761 near modern day
> Truro.
> There is a very well established Historical Society in Truro and
> Colchester
> County. I suggest you try that site.
>
> Margaret E. McNutt Taylor
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Karen
> Sent: January-05-09 5:11 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [S-I] Scots in Ulster
>
> And in the same line of thinking: Does anyone know how I might find how
> my
> ancestors traveled from Ulster (Co. Armagh) to Ontario, Canada?
> Thanks,
> Karen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beverley Clarkson" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 8:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [S-I] Scots in Ulster
>
>
> After some reflection I decided to send the following question to the
> Ancestryireland site. It seems to be very misleading to completely ignore
> the migration to America that includes Canadian provinces, and a
> disservice
> to those who might be cut of from the lines of research through lack of
> information..
>
> I have raised the question before, but not recently. To those who have
> heard
> it, I apologise and thank you for your patience. I hope you see that I am
> trying to help. We can always find information about the US but if others
> do
> not know about Canada, then they may miss where their families originated
> or
> went.
>
> The question:
>
> I went to your site this morning at the suggestion of Rick McMaster and
> while it is full of wonderful information, I have to ask why you exclude a
> very sizeable proportion of Ulster Scots who came to Canada? Many of my
> forbears arrived in the late 18th and th early 19 centuries and settled so
> much of New Brunswick Canada that the province was almost called New
> Ireland
> when formed in 1784, instead of the politically chosen "New Brunswick".
> There are major Ulster Scots settlements in Canada, some of which are
> linked
> to US family migrations, but others not.
>
> Can you not be more clear that travelling to "America" was not just the
> United States? It would also be more helpful to people who only search US
> lists for information about their ancestors. Many both came directly to
> Canada or sailed to the US ports and made their way north.
>
> I want to support the site and subscribe but feel kind of unwelcome.
>
> --
> Beverley Clarkson
> The question:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Beverley Clarkson
> <>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this information.
>>
>> just a correction- the site is www.ancestryireland.com/scotsinulster
>>
>> Beverley
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:18 PM, <> wrote:
>>
>>> Scots in Ulster: valuable guide to our heritage
>>> _www.ulsterscotsagency.com_ (http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/)
>>> by Billy Kennedy
>>>
>>> A highly innovative, deeply informative and superbly designed Surname
>>> Map
>>> and Pocket History on the Scots in Ulster (the first Scottish
>>> Migrations
>>> to
>>> Ulster 1606-1641) has just been produced, with an initial 15,000 copies
>>> made
>>> available to the public.
>>>
>>> The Surname Map and Pocket History has been published by the
>>> Ulster-Scots
>>> Agency and the Ulster Historical Foundation and is sponsored by Tourism
>>> Ireland.
>>>
>>> It acts as a valuable guide to those involved in genealogical and
>>> historical
>>> work on the 17th century Scottish Plantation and 18th century migration
>>> to
>>> America.
>>>
>>> Hundreds of surnames appear, taken from the lists of first families who
>>> made
>>> the short sea journey from Lowland Scotland across to Ulster from 1608
>>> in
>>> the movement initiated by Sir Hugh Montgomery and James Hamilton.
>>>
>>> The sepia-coloured document, complete with detailed maps and
>>> illustrations,
>>> depicts celebrated Ulster landmarks like Derry's Walls, Monea Castle
>>> (Co
>>> Fermanagh), Rathmullan Church (Co Donegal), Dunluce Castle (Co Antrim),
>>> Springhill (Co Londonderry) and Killyleagh Castle (Co Down).
>>>
>>> It was compiled by William J. Roulston, an Ulster-Scots Agency Board
>>> member
>>> and Ulster Historical Foundation official, and designed by Mark
>>> Thompson,
>>> Chairman of the Ulster-Scots Agency.
>>>
>>> The storyline in the Surname Map and Pocket History traces the
>>> Plantation
>>> of
>>> Ulster; the Presbyterian religion of the settlers; the 1641 Rebellion;
>>> the
>>> Cromwellian and Restoration periods; the Williamite Wars in Ulster; the
>>> early
>>> 18th century settlements in Ulster; Presbyterianism in the 18th
>>> century;
>>> Emigration to Colonial America; and popular protest - the 1798
>>> Rebellion
>>> and the
>>> Act of Union, with an insight into what life was like in the Ulster of
>>> 200-300 years ago.
>>>
>>> There is even a section on the whiskey-making tradition, centering on
>>> the
>>> Old Bushmills Distillery in North Antrim.
>>>
>>> "This is a highly commendable historical, cultural and genealogical
>>> work
>>> which will greatly assist in proclaiming to a wider audience the
>>> absorbing story
>>> of the Ulster-Scots diaspora, from Scotland to north-east Ireland and
>>> thence
>>> to the American colonies," said George Patton, Chief Executive of the
>>> Ulster-Scots Agency.
>>>
>>> . Copies of the Surname Map and Pocket History are available from the
>>> Ulster-Scots Agency at 68-72, Great Victoria Street, Belfast BT2 2BB.
>>> Those
>>> interested can also visitwww.ancestryireland.com/scotsinulster
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Beverley Clarkson
>> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Beverley Clarkson
> Sambro Head, Nova Scotia
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