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From: "TODD KERRY BRANDOFF" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] Ellots and Armstrongs
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:38:18 -0700
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Marsha,
I just read the ~Steel Bonnets~ from my local university. It does have two
excellent maps of the Borders land and shows where the different clans
lived. I am descended from the Grahams who were right up there fighting
with/alongside the Eliots and the Armstrongs. The Grahams also have
their own chapter in the book.
Kerry

----- Original Message -----
From: marsha moses<mailto:>
To: <mailto:>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: [S-I] Ellots and Armstrongs


John, I just pulled out my Elliott book after rambling for several
paragraphs to ask you if my Elliots were involved with the same
event. My book says much the same thing that yours does...that the
pacification began in 1603:

"1603 was the accession of James VI of Scotland to the throne of
England as James I. Scotland was governed by decree from London.
There was forcible supression of the clan system in the Borders. Many
Ellots, along with Armstrongs, hung or dispossed.

1612 Plantation of Ulster. Many Borderers emigrate to Northern
Ireland and subsequently to the US. Join foreign armies."

I remember having in my hands a very good Borders map which showed
where both the Armstrongs and the Ellots lived on the Border land. It
may be with my Clendenin "stuff", but I can't put my hands on it right
this minute.

I was about to ask you for more books to read that deal with this time
period. However, interestingly enough, I have written a couple in the
back blank pages of my book as a note to myself:

The Border Reivers by Keith Durham and Angus McBride
and
The Steele Bonnets by George McDonald Fraser

So I might make a run to Borders this morning. Marsha in WV

On Nov 8, 2008, at 12:35 PM, John Armstrong wrote:

> Jeanne,
> I'd say People were leaving The Borders of Scotland in the early
> part of
> the 1600's..
> The Pacification of the Borders was underway then.. Boy King James
> V of
> Scotland hanged Johnny Armstrong of Gilnockie and about 30 of his
> family and
> friends in 1630.. So the Armstrong's began leaving the Borders of
> Scotland
> then. Some to Ireland, Some to the New World...
>
> Sincerely
> John Armstrong
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeanne Swick" <<mailto:>>
> To: "List - <mailto:>" <<mailto:>>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:15 AM
> Subject: [S-I] I wonder if anyone can tell me how early the Scot-...
>
>
>>
>> I wonder if anyone can tell me how early the Scot-Irish were in Upper
>> Canada. My family seems to have been there in 1822, long before the
>> famine.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> JS
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