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From: "Cliff. Johnston" <>
Subject: Re: [S-I] I wonder if anyone can tell me how early the Scot-...
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:53:43 -0600
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Among the names that I'm researching I have found Scots-Irish & Scottish
ancestors coming over to Upper Canada starting in 1815. The end of the
Napoleonic Wars seems to have made a difference.

Cliff. Johnston
"May the best you've ever seen,
Be the worst you'll ever see;"
from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
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From: "John & Anne Carey" <>
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Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [S-I] I wonder if anyone can tell me how early the Scot-...


> You might get a clue if you know where in Upper Canada they were located.
>
> If your ancestors were located in communities along the Great Lakes
> shoreline or the St. Lawrence or Ottawa Rivers, they could have arrived
> prior to 1890. This would include the United Empire Loyalists Loyalists
> to
> which Linda referred. There were pockets of them in communities all along
> the shore of Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence.
>
> About 1790, John Graves Simcoe came to Upper Canada as the first
> Lieutenant-Governor. He began a campaign of surveys and of building main
> roads that were intended as settlement roads. Those closest to the Great
> Lakes shoreline and the St. Lawrence River were laid out and built first.
>
> By the 1820s and 1830s, the settlement roads were established further from
> the shores and many Protestants from Ireland came at that time. In
> searching the early census for my ancestors, I have usually encountered
> them
> identifying themselves as born in Ireland but of Scottish ancestry.
>
> In eastern Upper Canada at that time, these folks were being directed to
> townships far from the lakes, like Lanark whose settlement was occurring
> by
> 1822. Most didn't stay long in these locations once they discovered how
> poor the land was for farming. They moved west and south, many to the
> U.S.
> In central and south-western Upper Canada, the farming was better and they
> stayed and founded small communities like Strabane, Omagh and Drumquin
> that
> exist to this day, although many have remained as hamlets. It is generally
> acknowledged here that the numbers of Irish Protestants who emigrated to
> Upper Canada in the 1820s and 1830s was far greater than the numbers of
> Irish who came in the 1840s as a result of the famines.
>
> Many of the folks arriving in the 1820s and 1830s seem to have been lured
> by
> government emigration campaigns. In Scotland, people banded together to
> form emigration societies that booked the ship. Since they emigrated and
> arrived together, they tended to be granted land in the same place.
> Perhaps
> the Scots in Ireland did the same thing.
>
> John Carey
>
>
>
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>
>
> I wonder if anyone can tell me how early the Scot-Irish were in Upper
> Canada. My family seems to have been there in 1822, long before the
> famine.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> JS
>
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