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Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Newton P Black
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 02:27:32 +0000
A good resource for US genealogy is http://www.usgenweb.com/ . It had a page for each state and often that page has links to state resources. The Tennessee one is:
http://www.tngenweb.org/ One of its pages is http://www.tngenweb.org/tnlinks.htm#tennessee It linkes to the Tenn gov pages.
I found http://tennessee.gov/tsla/history/mailcnty.htm#Marriages that says
Marriages 1861-1944 can be found in the records of each county. There is no state-wide index to marriages during this time period. We can search for a marriage record if given the names of the groom and bride, county of marriage, and the date of the marriage or a 5-year date span. If the marriage occurred in one of the four metropolitan counties (Davidson County, Hamilton County, Knox County and Shelby County), a 3-year date span must be specified.
For the years 1945-1949, there is a year-by-year statewide index to Tennessee marriage records. The index is arranged by the name of the groom. A requst for a marriage record search for the years 1945 must include the name of the groom. TSLA will search a five year range in this index. The search request requies the name of the groom and the date of the marriage (or we will search the five year range 1945-1949); the name of the bride & the county of marriage are not required, but should be included if known. "
And so on. I would use the censuses at ancestry to see if you can find her under her maiden or married name in a TN county to get an idea when she got married.
You can then go to the county page. Davidson is here:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndavids/nashgene.htm At the bottom it says the courthouse has marriages from the 1700s....
Then I checked LDS (www.familysearch.org). Davidson Co marriages are filmed:
Marriage records, 1789-1951; Licenses and bonds, 1789-1886; index, 1944- 1946 Davidson County (Tennessee). County Clerk You could order microfilm and check.
You could also subscribe to one of the lists and find someone who could look up the marriage for you or order it on line: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndavids/nashgene.htm has a link.
But I'd try to use the censuses to narrow down her arrival and marriage. Have you checked the Ellis Island website for ship list??
Also if you check the SSI at www.rootsweb.com, you can print out a letter that you can mail off with a fee to get her SS application. This would identify her. More info here:
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/ss.htm . It says:
If you are not familiar with the SS-5, you may be missing a great source of information on recent generations of your family. The form is filled out at the time a person applies for their Social Security Account Number. After that person dies, their application becomes a public record available to any person who applies for a copy under the Freedom of Information Act. Since the application includes the full name of the person, their date and place of birth, the full name of their father and the full maiden name of their mother, plus their place of employment at the time the application was made, it can aid location and identification of past generations. "
This document would clearly tell you if this is your lady or not.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Mark Thompson <>
> Hello all,
> A few months ago I posted a message here, and some of you were good
> enough to reply. The woman Im trying to find out about is Lillian
> Palmer Black, originally of Portavogie, County Down, Northern Ireland,
> who died in Nashville around 1990 having emigrated sometime around the
> Ive at last managed to find this information about her husband:
> - Name: Newton P Black
> - Born: 01 Jan 1926
> - Died: 21 Oct 1992
> - Last Residence: 37204 (Nashville, Davidson, TN)
> - SSN: 408-30-6845
> So Ive got the SSDI Record now (from Ancestry.com) . Then I got the US
> Phone and Address Directory. Newton P Black lived at:
> - 3506 Pleasant Valley Road
> - 37204-0000
> - Phone: 615-385-3380
> So I did some more digging and found this record:
> - Lillian Palmer
> - Born: 19 Jan 1899
> - Died: April 1983
> - Last Residence: 37220 (Nashville, Davidson, TN)
> - SSN: 412-08-5241
> Maybe this is the woman Im looking for, maybe not.
> Can someone give me some guidance, based on the information above, to
> try to find marriage records, which might then give me more
> Many thanks,
> Mark Thompson
> Ulster-Scots Agency