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From: Monya Havekost <>
Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] Early Methodism in America
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:34:08 -0500
I forwarded the Methodist history to a friend who is a retired
Methodist minister and very interested in church history. He sends
along the comments below.
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THOMPSON, WEAVER and WEBSTER
Begin forwarded message:
> Thanks! I enjoyed reading it.
> I have copied out a few sentences for additional comment.
> From the article:
> "In 1785, the first annual conference of the Methodist Episcopal
> Church was
> held in Franklin County, NC. This historical event took place 29-30
> 1785, at Green Hill Place, the home of Major Green Hill (1741-1826) in
> central Franklin County, one mile east of Louisburg.
>> At this conference, which established the founding of the Methodist
> Episcopal Church, Joshua Hartley and Hope Hull were admitted on trial
> appointed to the Salisbury circuit. The following year the first
> Annual Conference held in western North Carolina was held at
> Salisbury, 1
> Feb 1786, with Thomas Williamson and Henry Bingham appointed to the
> Salisbury circuit. In 1787, that year's first annual conference was
> held at Salisbury, with Rev. Mark Moore appointed on May the 17th as
> circuit's only minister."
> My comments.... if you care to read them. I didn't realize when I
> that I would go on so long!
> The first Annual Conference may well have been held as mentioned, but
> third sentence is not exactly accurate. The ME Church was founded at
> Baltimore at Christmas, 1784, at what has been termed "The Christmas
> Conference." It was tantamount to a General Conference. That was the
> founding of the ME Church. North Carolina may have held the first
> Conference in the new concept, but that conference did not "found the
> denomination." The South Carolina Annual Conference was established in
> as well, but probably after the NC people organized.
> Sometime during the year 1784, John Wesley sent Thomas Coke from
> England to
> find Asbury to give him instruction concerning the administration of
> work in the new United States (although we, the USA that is, were still
> struggling with the Constitution). The Methodist Societies were
> as part of the Anglican Church (read Church of England), but after the
> Revolution, there was no more Anglican Church in the US. Something new
> have to be done. Asbury and Coke were to take charge and divide the
> north and south, and carry on. Asbury had other plans. He bought into
> idea of democracy and decided to let the preachers share in the
> not simply do what Wesley said. When the preachers gathered at
> for the "Christmas Conference," he asked for a vote on who would be
> "superintendents" (Wesley's term). They elected him and Coke, as
> Wesley had
> intended, but then Asbury took the title "Bishop." Wesley was not
> impressed. But there was nothing he could do about it. Other business
> included what they thought necessary to establish the rules of the
> denomination. I have forgotten what year laypeople started sharing the
> decisions at General Conference, but it was not too many years down the
> road. Now there is a fairly even balance between lay and clergy at all
> levels of Conferences.
> The next sentence, concerning the first Annual Conference held in
> North Carolina is purely a matter of geographical technicality. Some
> confusion usually arises in discussions like that which follows, as
> the term
> "Annual Conference" refers both to an annual meeting and a
> geographical/administrative sub-division of Methodism. There would
> been only one Annual Conference in North Carolina at the time (other
> the parts that were in the South Carolina Annual Conference). The
> then, as now, are held at varying locations. Therefore the first AC in
> western NC was simply a meeting, not another organization. The article
> not say otherwise, but when I first read it, I thought it might mean
> first meeting of the Western NC Conference." NC has two Annual
> now, NC and Western NC, but back then there was only one.
> As far as I know, the rest of the article is accurate. I found it very
> interesting! Thanks for thinking about me!