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From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <>
Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:23:31 -0400
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And, if it's of any help, those ancestors in Ireland must have been
Presbyterian.
Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hart Anthony" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever


> Just a bit more information about Irish Protestants in Ontario, this from
> my own background:
>
> My grandfather's grandparents left northern Ireland in 1840, immediately
> after marrying, to go to Canada. Here is what I know:
>
> Samuel Hart (b. abt. 1815, "north of Ireland, near Belfast, in Ulster",
> poss. Co. Cavan, m. Rebecca Kelly from Co. Armagh March 15, 1840.)
> Rebecca was the youngest of four girls:
> Anna Bella Kelly (b. about 1800)
> Jane Kelly
> Mary Kelly
> Rebecca Kelly
>
> (1) Anna Bella Kelly m. John Caughey (b. Callyshiel, Co. Armagh, d.
> November 25, 1871, m. Anna Bella Kelly January 17, 1828 in Clare
> Presbyterian Church (Co. Armagh?), Ireland.)
>
> (2) Jane Kelly m. David Jeffrey October 28, 1831, in the same church.
>
> (3) Mary Kelly m. James McHenry April 23, 1839, in the same church.
>
> (4) Rebecca Kelly m. Samuel Hart March 15, 1840, and they left
> "immediately" for Canada.
> I do not know what ship they traveled on, nor where they landed in Canada.
> I do know they soon were living in Bishop's Mills, Oxford-on-Rideau
> Township, Ontario, Canada.
>
> Rebecca Kelly's father was named James Kelly, but I do not know anything
> about his siblings or his parents or where they lived. It is possible
> that James Kelly had a brother John. James Kelly died between October 28,
> 1831 and April 23, 1839, as he was present for his first two daughter's
> weddings, but not for the last two.
>
> It is possible that Rebecca Kelly's mother was Jane ? but that is not
> definite.
>
> I would love to know more about Samuel Hart (b. Ireland) and also about
> the parents of Rebecca Kelly (b. Ireland), as well as previous generations
> in Ireland. All of that is likely to be in Co. Cavan (family memories) or
> possible Co. Armagh (since Rebecca Kelly's family church was there.)
>
> Last summer, my husband and I traveled to Bishop's Mills, Ontario, Canada,
> and we found the log cabin that Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly built and
> lived in. It is being lived in and loved by a family who is working on
> making it look like it did when it was built. It still does look exactly
> like that -- I mean they are restoring it where needed. Townspeople knew
> it as the Hart cabin. We also found the Minish cabin (see more info below
> if you are interested.)
>
> Following is the line from Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly who married in
> Ireland. If it is more information than what you are interested in, just
> skip it!
>
> In Canada, Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly Hart had 4 children:
> James Hart b. 1843
> Martha Jane Hart b. 1844
> Samuel Hart, Jr.
> Maurice Hart, b. December 25, 1850
>
> Maurice Hart married a girl from the farm next door in Bishop's Mills:
> Catherine Minish, poss. b. 1845, as her gravestone says "died March 26,
> 1911, at the age of 66 years." We also found the Minish cabin, sure
> enough, visible from the Hart cabin's back yard.
>
> Maurice Hart and Catherine Minish Hart had nine children, all born in
> Canada:
> (1) Samuel Hart (b. February 11, 1868, m. Mary Ellen Snowdon, had one
> child Ruby Elizabeth Hart. Mary Ellen Snowdon died at the age of 97.)
> (2) David Lorenzo Hart (b. March 28, 1870 d. March 12, 1908)
> (3) Margaret Hart (b. December 20, 1872. Never married, d. February 12,
> 1961)
> (4) Ella Hart (b. July 13, 1875, m. ? Gibson, had two children Mansell
> Gibson and Bernice Gibson, died September 03, 1959)
> (5) Charles Merrill Hart (b. July 7, 1877, d. September 08, 1961)
> (6) Eli Maurice (Morris) Hart (b. March 25, 1879, m. Carrie Bliss (b.
> October 1885, d. 1975) August 02, 1905, had two children Merrill Bliss
> Hart and Lauren Bliss Hart, d.
> (7) Agnys ("Nancy") Hart (b. October 12, 1881, d. 1923)
> (8) Elizabeth Ruby Hart (b. November 09, 1883 d. April 17, 1884 at the
> age of 2 years and 5 months)
> (9) Archibald "Albert" Arthur Hart (b. January 24, 1885, d. December 16,
> 1953)
>
> Eli Maurice Hart moved to Hartford, Connecticut, lived in a boarding
> house, and married the daughter of the owner of the boarding house. Her
> name was Carrie Bliss (b. October 1885, d. 1975). They are my
> grandparents. They had two sons.
>
> (1) Merrill Bliss Hart (b. August 19, 1920, m. Norma Grace Thomas (b.
> 1915, d. 1972), had two children named Merrill and Lauren, and d. 1969.
>
> Merrill Bliss Hart and Norma Grace Thomas Hart had two children:
> (a) Thomas George Hart, b. 1936, m. Inger from Sweden, lives in Sweden,
> has three children: Stephen, Birgitta, and Karin, also grandchildren)
> (b) Margaret Ruth Hart, b. March 18, 1943, had four children: William,
> Merrill, Thomas, James), d. August 29, 1989)
>
> (2) Lauren Watson Hart (changed his name at the age of 21 to Lauren Bliss
> Hart) (b. November 20, 1914, m. Ruth Margaret Kelley [this Kelley has an
> e] (b. November 5, 1916, had three children named Karen, Steven, and
> Jill), d. February 01, 1992)
>
> Lauren Bliss Hart and Ruth Margaret Hart had three children:
> (a) Karen Ruth Hart (that's me! b. October 01, 1940, m. Gerald Jordan
> Reese September 02, 1962, had two children Michael Todd Reese and Brian
> Hart Reese, divorced 1975, remarried to Cushman Dodge Anthony 1976)
> (b) Steven Merrill Hart (b. February 07, 1942, m. Carlotta Bethea, no
> children)
> (c) Mary Jill Hart, known as Jill Hart (b. November 24, 1945, m. Thomas
> Johnson, had two children Tammy and Carrie)
>
> Karen Ruth Hart Reese and Gerald Jordan Reese had two children:
> (a) Michael Todd Reese (b. October 13, 1964, lives in Hawaii, not married)
> (b) Brian Hart Reese (b. September 5, 1965), lives in Virginia with
> long-time girlfriend, has one child Jennifer Myita Hart Reese (b. August
> 26, 1999)
>
> That's all for now. I would greatly appreciate any information on the
> first named people in this story: Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly, who
> married in Ireland.
>
> Karen Hart Anthony
> Falmouth, Maine
> USA
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:52 PM
> Subject: [Sc-Ir] Ontario Irish/Ulster-Scots/Whatever
>
>
>> The new thread on Irish Protestants in Ontario is interesting and
>> illuminating on the large migration from all parts of Ireland, not just
>> Ulster.
>>
>> Bruce S. Elliott, Irish Migrants in the Canadas (Montreal: McGill
>> University
>> Press, 1988), 2nd edition, 2004, $32.95 US and Canada, tells this story,
>> primarily through case studies of Protestant emigrants from North
>> Tipperary to
>> Ontario. This is an outstanding book, that I considered groundbreaking
>> when I
>> reviewed it in 1988 (and my review is still quoted in the publisher's
>> blurb).
>> The author is a trained genealogist who drew on genealogical records of
>> many
>> Ontario families.
>>
>> Donald Harmen Akenson, The Irish in Ontario, also from McGill, is another
>> good book on the topic. Akenson has researched and written widely on
>> both Ulster
>> and rural Ontario.
>>
>> Richard
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