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From: "Linda Merle" <>
Subject: RE: [Sc-Ir] 2 Questions
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:23:55 -0800


Hi Nancy,

>I am wondering how you can know or tell what kind of a Presbyterian
>Church your ancestry belonged to ?like ,say ,the Carnmoney Presbyterian
>Church..does anyone know what kind of a Presbyterian Church that was
>considered.?

If you google on Carnmoney Presbyterian Church you'll find
the church website. Add history and you might quickly find
a history.

Many of these churches split -- maybe Seceders left like
at Saintfield and formed another congregation. Sometimes
they merged. Sometimes they changed from subscribers to non
or back.

You can also obtain a book on the history of the Presbyterian
church in Ireland. You can order books on film from LDS.
But these days often you can find the info on the web.

>and how do you research the Synod of Ulster and the Presbyterians
>and the cases that were brought before it? especially if an ancestor
>was invloved?

You search the LDS catalog to see if these records a filmed.
You don't mention the period. The minutes may be filmed
past a certain date.

Then you hire someone in Belfast to research or do some
other things. Like read a book on the history and TURN TO
THE BACK. It has a list of sources. Check those. The author
wirting a history probably didn't abstract or transcribe
the minutes with all the names. The bibliography there in
the back IDs his sources and often where he found them
(PRONI, PRO, PHS in Belfast, etc).

A favorite of mine -- visit a seminary library. These are GREAT!!
You need of course a decent seminary with a good sized library.
There are two I've been to in Pittsburgh. They got different
things. Oddly the 'mainstream' one has a LOT of dissenting
records in Scotland -- history of the Wee Free Church, for
example. My Scottish ancestors belonged to it. Both have
published copies of early records in Scotland and Ireland.
I'm talking minutes here. Possibly are other types of records
back in Scotland and Ireland, but you can spend a couple days
(I have) in a good seminary library. The other one I've spent
more time at is the RP Seminary library in Pittsburgh.
As its' the faithful remnant of the RP church, the rest of
us are going to hell. It sure ain't gonna let the Presbyterian
Historical Society in Philly get its records. They are all
deposited in the SEminary library, which, due to high
academic standards, is cosmic. They have many unpublished
records as well, but for main streamers the Westminster (I
think that's its name) is better, of course.

Lots of records on Cameronians and various obscure groups
in PGH too. I think some Cameronian baptisms are filmed and
in LDS though.

For Presbyterian Historical Society records, check the
LDS catalog. That's why they got the author search. Check
200 film at home before going to Philly....

The RP Seminary in Pittsburgh collects histories of RP
congregations so if anyone is a member of one and you publish a
church history -- send them one, please!! They've got a great
collection. The librarian was a pastor in Northern Ireland
a few years ago. If you donate to the library they will really
help you out.

LDS has basic stuff like the Fasti (books of bios of
Presbyterian ministers) as well.

There was a seminary library in CA that had ship lists.
I donno why. To get into it you had to be interviewed though.
Put on the turtleneck to avoid possible wardrobe malfunctions.

If anyone needs any research (for fee....my carbills are high),
I'll be in Pittsburgh sometime this spring. You can actually
check the catalogs for these places yourself and then tell
me or someone else exactly what you want to look at.

Linda Merle




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