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From: "Linda Merle" <>
Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Favorite: William James Warnock 1746, Tyrone
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 13:03:28 -0700


Hi Virginia,

Thanks for the info for our archives. The middle name Laken is a
rare and odd name -- some clue.

Both British soldiers and loyalists can be researched. We did some
work recently on a customer of mine's mystery ancestor. He didn't
serve in the Revolutionary Army on the US side so I did a check of
loyalist and British records. Couldn't really find him there either!
He was a covenantor so maybe he sat this one out as neither side
fought under the direction of a presbytery.

However I personally suspect that some of our Scotch Irish (ie
southerners with the values and accept of Ulster) ancestors were
British soldiers. There's a book that helps you trace them if you
can place them at a battle. You said Yorktown.

"In Search of the Forlorn Hope: A Compreshensive Guide to Locating
British Regiments and Their Records" by John Kitzmiller is the
BIBLE of British military research. It gives the regiments at every
battle they fought and tells you were the men were recruited.

For Yorktown there was The Grenadier Guards, The Coldstream Guidard,
The Scots Guards, The ROyal Leicestershir (from London),
Royal Welsh Fusiliers (from Wales), Duke of Wellington (West Riding,
York Monmouthshire), West Middlesex Regiment (Middlesex),
Fraser Highlanders (Moray, Scotland), and the Duke of Hamilton's
Regiment from Rutherglen, Glasgow.

Your ancestor's name appears to be Scots (I haven't looked it up,
but maybe I recall it correctly). You got two Scottish regiments
at Yorktown.

In some of the resources I was using the men captured or killed
at Yorktown were named. I'll try to figure out which book that was.
Maybe he'll show as exchanged in that book, which I find its name.
Just have to open a few files.

As you can see no Irish regiments at Yorktown, but he could have
enlisted in a Scottish regiment. As London (Middlesex) is where
all British genealogy meets -- he coulda been in London and enlisted
there. Or Yorkshire.

You can get regimental histories and some records but without
more of a clue you'd probably go broke if you hired someone or
blind if y ou tried to do it yourself. I'm not sure how many WO
(War Office) records are filmed and in LDS....

>4. He was a sergeant in the Virginia State Artillery, and was given a land
>grant of two hundred acres. (I was able to follow this one up myself, and
>found the grant was to a William Warrick.)

Did you check any pension records? In my experience they can be
COSMIC as they need to prove that the guy was where he was claiming
he was. So it might name brothers, children, neighbors as witnesses
who would swear he was wounded at Yorktown, or whatever (one customer's
ancestor was wounded at Yorktown -- COSMIC pension application.
It was great seeing the names as I'd sure come across them all before
and now we knew they were all together at Yorktown).

It also seems that everyone's relative was at Yorktown <GRIN>!!
either there or Valley Forge....

Worse case, set up roadblocks around Belfast and collect DNA from
all the Warnocks before you let them through. Then test DNA and
find out where your's fits in!

Linda Merle

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