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From: "Linda Merle" <>
Subject: Re: [Sc-Ir] Some more from Antrim/Ballymoney/Coleraine
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 07:08:44 -0800


Dear Nancy,

You need to search all available records, say the experts at this.
I've found they are right! So figure out what you have checked, even if
there was nothing there, and then start working on what remains. You can use LDS research guides and a zillion other things. In truth, there
is no end to what exists. You need to keep on learning to find the
rest of the sources that you've not checked. Not knowing what y ou
have, all we could do is free associate and bore you. So let us know
what y ou have checked if you want specific suggestions to avoid
us spending 20 minutes typing in things to have you say "I already
checked all those". Fine, but I'm not going to spend 20 more minutes
doing it again because frankly I got professional customers who
should come first and I'm job hunting too. Busy busy busy.

Butler Co was not opened for settlement, legally, till 1807 or
so -- I got family up there earlier as well. There were BLACKs
with the Eliza crew. See our list website for additional info. These
folk were there earlier. Alexander Black is the immigrant. Some
Blacks moved north right quickly including another ALexander from
West Deer Twp in Allegheny Co. Neither of these Alexanders have
known links to the Rev John Black or his brother Robert Black.
Robert Black settled in Indiana/O'Hara Twnship of Allegheny Co.
It is north of the Allegheny River and is in the area known as Fox
Chapel.

The Eliza people came from southern Donegal and are not known
to contain covenantors but who knows. Little is known about them.
They did include Catholics and basically are the start of the
Pittsburgh Diocese. Some of them did marry into Covenanter families who
settled in the southern area of Butler (the northern was full of Indians). All I know including some census records is on our
website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle .

Perhaps we can correspond privately regarding Robert Black. You
need to get family info from the 1850 census (his children if he
was dead) and determine where those children were born as well
as his wife's name. The eldest of mine's were born in South
Carolina (1880-1805). That'll help distinguish amoung Robert
Blacks. Of course so do wills and deeds.

In Butler Co the vital records really help. Though they are late
1800s, that's when the pioneers were dying. They often give the
place of birth as well as internment. This allows you to distinguish
among Robert and Alexander Blacks. Butler also has excellent
cemetary transcriptions which are filmed and in LDS like the
death records.

Very best,

Linda Merle
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "nancy" <>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:00:44 -0500

>Linda and all,
>Does anyone have information or know where to look to find more on the small
>group of what I assume were Covenanters who emigrated from northeastern
>Donegal to the northeastern corner of Butler Co. Pa. (Parker Twp.and Cherry
>Township that I know of) during the late 1700's into the mid 1800's? I
>think my Blacks may have been a part of them (Robert Black). Any and all
>information appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Nancy
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Linda Merle" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:44 AM
>Subject: [Sc-Ir] Some more from Antrim/Ballymoney/Coleraine
>
>
>> Dear folks,
>>
>> Here's some items from LDS (www.familysearch.org):
>>
>> Armour's meeting house : the first hundred years Snodgrass, Len
>> The Presbyterian Church in Ireland : congregation of First Ballymoney,
>bicentenary of church building, 1777-1977 First Ballymoney Presbyterian
>Church (Antrim, Ireland)
>>
>> A Short history of the Presbyterian churches of Ballymoney, County Antrim
>Dill, A. H FHL BRITISH Film 1363861
>>
>> St. James's Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney : the first 150 years,
>1834-1984 St. James's Presbyterian Church (Ballymoney, Antrim)
>>
>> St. Patrick's Church, Ballymoney, 1782-1982 Church of Ireland. St.
>Patrick's Church (Ballymoney)
>>
>> Register of baptisms, births, marriages and burials in the parish of
>Ballymoney, County Antrim, 1807-1898 copied by Z. Mettam
>> Notes Typescript. Filmed with: Church records, 1806-1841 / First
>Presbyterian Church of Donegore. Contents: Baptisms 1807-1898 [births
>1807-1825, 1876-1898] -- marriages 1807-1845 -- burials 1807-1885.
>> Ballymoney is a parish partly in the liberties of Coleraine, County
>Londonderry, but chiefly in County Antrim.
>>
>> Parish register printouts of Ballymoney, Antrim, Ireland, christenings,
>1807-1875 Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Genealogical Society
>Parish register printouts of Ballymoney, Antrim, Ireland, marriages,
>1805-1845 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Genealogical
>Department [Easier reading!]
>>
>> Records of the Court Leet : manor of Dunluce, County Antrim, held in
>Ballymoney, 1798 to 1847 edited by James B. Hamilton
>>
>> Ballymoney : sources for local history FHL BRITISH Film 990232 Item 3
>> [The book I mentioned yesterday]
>>
>> Register of Ballymoney National School, 1856-1899
>>
>> Workhouse Registers [very useful -- mid 1800s and later. Many doctors,
>officials, etc are named besides paupers]
>>
>> Muster rolls of Co. Cavan, Co. Antrim, and Co. Donegal
>> Church of Ireland. Parish Church of Coleraine. Manuscript is at the Armagh
>County Museum, Armagh. 1279327 Item 6
>>
>> Antrim families : will pedigrees, Vol. II Microfilm copy of original
>manuscript (345 p.) at the Genealogical Department, Dublin, Ireland.
>> Filmed with Grants of denization to settlers from Scotland.Includes index
>to pedigrees (p. 354) and index to alliances.Pedigrees for families with
>surnames A-D primarily.I_n_ Manuscripts in the Genealogical Office of
>Ireland.00113 Item 3
>>
>> McKay - Patton - Paul genealogical data, 1767-1942 : extracts from birth,
>marriage, death records of various localities in Antrim County, Ireland
>[collected by a researcher from the Clough Presbyterian Church for Nancy
>Hill] Includes Bradshaw, Kenny, McBride and related families.
>> Extracts from parish registers and county records, 1767-1942, for McKay -
>Patton - Paul births, marriages, and deaths from various localities in
>Antrim County, Ireland. The extracts were chiefly from (1) the Clough
>Presbytewrian Church, (2) the Ballymena Council Office; (3) various towns in
>the Broughshane area, etc. 441063 Item 23
>>
>> Miscellaneous family and genealogical notes Thompson, D'Arcy Wentworth,
>SirTranscript is at the Armagh County Museum, Armagh.Contents: Henry family
>of Ulster -- Palmer family of Brisbane, Australia -- Wentworth family of New
>South Wales -- Von Stieglitz family of Co. Tyrone -- American passenger
>lists from Gordon's Newry chronicle -- Smith family of Co. Armagh --
>Burleigh family of Co. Armagh -- Hollingsworth family of Co. Armagh -- Gill
>family of Co. Cavan -- Brownlow family of Co. Antrim -- McAlindon family of
>Co. Armagh -- Woodhouse family of Co. Armagh -- Woolsey family of Co.
>Down -- Whaley family of Co. Armagh -- Co. Armagh tradesmens tokens --
>Thompson, Taylor and Hart entries in Lisburn Cathedral registers --
>Milltown's interesting links with the late Sir Robert Hart -- Local linen
>notes from files of the Belfast news letter -- Notes from Reference to the
>plan of Armagh -- Anderson family of Co. Armagh -- McBride family of Co.
>Armagh -- Williamson family of England -!
>> - Peebles family of Co. Armagh -- Hill family of Co. Down -- Trevor
>family of Co. Down -- Notes re Belvoir park -- Sir D'Arcy Thompson -- Greer
>family of the North of England. 1279327 Item 18
>>
>> Linda Merle
>>
>>
>
>

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