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Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] Surnames?
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 06:51:08 -0700
Hi Eugene, Yup. Campbell is usually thought to be Scottish but
there are Irish Campbells. The Irish ones are a sept in Tyrone.
Besides lowland Campbell farmers coming to Ulster in the 1600's
and later, you have Galloglass Campbells coming before. These were
Gaelic speaking Sherman tanks who came from the Isles and western
shores of Scotland to fight for the Irish chieftains and occassionally
the English. They changed the course of history. In the 1500's
due to ONE dynastic marriage between a Scotswoman and an Irish
lord, 10,000 went to IReland as part of her dowry. The English
were tearing their hair out. There's a book on the Gallowglass.
They were found in every county in Ireland and unlike the native
Irish were LARGE, brawny lads. If you find a really huge lad in
Cork -- SMILE --you know where his ancestors came from <grin>..
but it is all right, they were Catholic. They first started coming,
as far as we know, with Edward Bruce in the early 1300's. Some
settled down and started their own clans like the McSweeneys.
Alexander -- Scottish. Originally an English first name, it
became a popular surname on the west coast of Scotland. You
find Alexander septs among the MacAlisters, Donalds, MacArthur,
and MacDonnell clans.
The galloglass book is "Scots Mercenary Forces in Ireland (1565-1603)
by Gerard Hayes-McCoy , published in Dublin by Eamonn de Burca
for Edmund Burke, Publisher, orig. published 1937, republished....
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Eugene V. Barnes" <>
Reply-To: "Eugene V. Barnes" <>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:19:02 -0700
>Would your Bell Book have anything on Alexander or Campbell ?
>Costa Mesa, CA
>----- Original Message -----
>Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:10 AM
>Subject: [Scotch-Irish] Surnames?
>When times get dull we often do surname lookups on this list. This
>would be "Scotch-Irish". Since there are no Scotch Irish surnames,
>just as there are no natively American surnames -- they all came
>from somewhere-s else, we do want to focus on surnames that we think
>belonged to people coming from Ulster or Ireland.
>Various listers have reference books on British and Irish surnames --
>but none on Scandanavian or German.
>We might be able to suggest where in Ireland the family originated.
>SOme surnames get done a lot. We get very lazy about re-typing it all
>in, so check the archives too:
>www.rootsweb.com , scroll down, find in left hand colum "Mail lists"
>and click on "Interactive SearcH". Type in Scotch-Irish for the name
>of the list.
>Also always check the archives as after a surname is talked about
>others may post additional info -- which well may not be repeated
>so you will need to check the archives if you want the information.
>I have Bell "Book of Ulster Surnames" (our Bible), the definitive
>work on Scottish surnames, a definitive work on English surnames,
>and a volume of McLysaght.
>Favorite Scottish clan: McFuktors (rapidly became WALKERs and
>moved to Ireland) -- gem from Black "Scottish Surnames".
>Linda Merle SI Admin