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From: Charles Clark <>
Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] Ballymena - Rainman - BOYDs!!
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:35:58 +1200
References: <200108110542.AA109838534@mail.fea.net>




wrote:

> Dear Donald and others,
>
> At that time a lister said that he believed this was the first
> case of an Ulster Boyd line being traced back to Scotland. Donno!
> I don't research Boyds. However I have found a second. This is
> in "The Kirk and Parish of Ballyrashane since the Scottish Settlement"
> by J E and T H Mullin, published in Belfast by the Belfast
> Newsletter in 1957.
>
> Page 17: "Another very early settlement just outside our district was
> that of John Boyd, who had been provost of Irvine in Ayrshire, and
> who settled at Carncoggie. The oldest tombstone in Derrkeighan Old
> Graveyard was erected by him in 1615 to the memory of his wife
> Jane PEOPLES. Thomas Boyd probably their son, obtained a lease of
> Carncoggie in 1614.

"The names of those who settled in Derrykeighan, taken from the “Macdonnells of Antrim,” were Thomas Boyd at Carncoggy,
Thomas Boyd at Lisconnan, Archibald Boyd at Carncullagh, John Loncke, and afterwards Hugh Peoples and Catherine Ganniel
(probably Gamble) at Ballyhivistock, John Stewart at Ballylusk, and Anthony Kennedy , who resided at Armoy, obtained a
lease of Mosside, whilst Kerr got a lease of Beerhill, where he resided. The above is a list of the chief Scottish
landholders here, but at that time the families of Nevin, Campbell, Gordon, McCook, Moore, Hunter, Logan, Crawford &c.
probably settled in Derrykeighan." (my reference Thomas Camac's History of Derrykeighan For Three Centuries but he referes
to Hill's Macdonnells of Antrim. There's also reference to Boyds from Hill's Stewarts of Ballintoy in our archives).
A second quote from Camac:
"CARNCOGGY was leased in 1614 to Thomas Boyd, an Ayrshire man, at the yearly rent of £8 15s 0d. He died in 1634, and the
oldest tombstone in Derrykeighan is to the memory of his wife. The stone is broken, and the two parts serve to support a
later tombstone. Boyd was Provost of Irvine, and was an executor of William Boyd’s will, of Dunluce, in which he was
bequeathed by the testator “his beste silver piece and his beste sedell and brydell.” The appended can still be read in
raised letters on the stone:
HEIR-VNDERLIETH-KATHARINE LATE PROVEST-OF-IRVINE WHO DEPARTED HIS LIFE THE 1 OF NOVEMBER IN ANNO DOI 1615
Boyd died in 1634, and was succeeded by his son Hugh. This townland in the nest century was the property of the
Macnaghtens, of Benvarden, and was sold some time after the execution of John Macnaghten in 1761, for the murder of Miss
Knox, of Prehen, to Hugh Montgomery. Part of the fine demesne of Benvarden is in this townland. A small sub-division of
land, Deepstown, the property of Sir. F.E. Macnaghten, was probably originally comprised in Carncoggy. John Alex.
Montgomery sold to the occupying tenants of Carncoggy in 1904"

This lot is fairly well known, and I am sure the Mullins would not blush to admit that they were not the first to make
reference to them.

> A descendent of this family became M.P. for
> Coleraine in much later times."

Dr. Boyd, MP for Coleraine, was born at Bellisle in 1784, being the son of John Boyd. The “doctor”, as he was familiarly
known, went to Coleraine when only eleven years of age, and died 1862. (Also from Camac)

> So we got TWO Boyd lines back to Scotland now. Hurray for the Boyds.
> (The source is not mentioned).

Lots of them, I suspect, when you get down to it

> My Masons are English (County Durham) and Methodist. SO much forthose who think the surname is a clue to the religion of
> the holder

> <grin>. I just hope Willie didn't head for COunty Durham. I got

> enough problems sorting them out there! (In the census I found MASONs
> living with Irish ENGLISH, ...were these Irish MASONs too, and so definitely not mine, who came down from Weardale??).

English Masons living with Irish English? I suspect that both sides would consider this to be a clear example of "living
in sin"....
Charlie




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