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From: Charles Clark <>
Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] NELIS
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:26:24 +1200
I suspect, Barbara, that you should be a little bit careful about believing that
names such as Elliott are Huguenot rather than Scottish Border in origin.
Reading in Grace Lawless Lee, "The Huguenot Settlements in Ireland" (1936) I
find at least a couple of coments that infer that not all those in the lists of
Huguenots in fact are.
One name I am interested in is Delap, or Delappe.
Lee comments twice:
(p81, re Huguenots in Cork county)"Another settler whose Huguenot origin is
doubtful, although he is listed among the refugees by Hayman, was Michael, son
of William Delappe, who was buried in St Mary's Churchyard in 1769. This name,
which also appears in the north, is given a Scottish descent by Burke."
(p197-98) "In addition to the names already mentioned, the writer on Belfast in
the Ulster Journal gives others which are less easy of proof. some indeed
definitely are not Huguenot, as Delap, a family which is stated by Burke to be
Scottish in descent."
So Grace Lawless Lee, writing in 1936, says that some of those who are said to
be Huguenot may well not be: I suggest your Elliotts might well be Scottish
Border, just as you have always believed
I'd like to know more about your Lamberts, however: I have some Lamberts who
seem to be just off the searchable range (so far anyway), including one who was
said to be captain commanding the HMS Java, a British frigate sunk by the USS
Constitution in 1812. A member of the family was said to have had large
possessions inthe Spitalfields, London, and a Stuart relative was "appointed by
his relative, General Lambert (who was in command of the Dublin district), to
the 11th Regiment, with which he went to Portugal in 1826 and 1827, and served
there until the end of 1835."
Barbara Holt wrote:
> Regarding your point that groups usually intermarried in Ireland, I have
> found, to
> my surprise, in going through the Hug. Index, that names like Elliott in my
> family which I had assumed for years were members of the Scottish Border
> Clan, are probably Huguenot. What's more, every known family (except one)
> into which the Elliotts married in County Clare over more than 200 years
> also had a name of Huguenot origin - Arnold, Lambert, West, Prittie, Short,
> and Nihill ( which I think is probably another variant of NELIS), down to