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From: "Edward Andrews" <>
Subject: RE: [Scotch-Irish] re: Scottish ancestry -- Not Here
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:43:58 +0100
In-Reply-To: <029401c0bc03$f201c560$f2600241@grnsbrg1.pa.home.com>


This is precisely the problem.
Miss O'Flynn and Mr McGregor meet in New York and get married. They are not
Scots Irish.

The Barr family from Scotland go to Ireland where they stay for some time.
They become Ulster Scots. They then go to American where they are called
Scotch Irish.

Now at all stages there are different sources for their history. Most S-I
(different communities describe them selves slightly differently) left
Scotland before the 18th Century. The most important time of S-I migration
to America was in fact probably pre Revolutionary wars, certainly before the
end of the 18th Century.

There are a few who practice on both lists. I am peculiar on the lists in
that I was born in Ulster, (of Ulster Scot parents) and I live and work in
Scotland.

What you have to remember is that for American Scotland researchers the
trick is to get back to Scotland, for Americans on the S-I list the trick
may be to get back to Ireland.

Once back most of them are from Ulster, many of them are Presbyterians, and
some of them were quite prosperous. The records are in different places

There is the added complication in that the S-I often remained in
identifiable communities for some time in America, which is why we can have
long discussions about some settlement pattern in Western Virginia.

As far as Scotland is concerned, the jump between Ireland and Scotland is
extremely difficult, though one may get lucky and be able to identify a
community move.

I rather thought that this was explained in both the welcome message and on
the Web site

Edward Andrews
St. Nicholas Buccleuch Parish Church Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland
Visit our Web site http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/index.htm


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sue M [mailto:]
> Sent: 03 April 2001 07:04
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] re: Scottish ancestry -- Not Here
>
>
> Linda,
> I have both Scottish and Irish ancestry, but after reading the
> post below, I'm a little confused. Why is the name of this list
> the Scotch-Irish list?
> Thanks,
> Sue*
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
>
>
> Hi folks, please note that the Scotch Irish list is NOT a
> Scottish list. It is absolutely focused on Ireland and its
> emigrees. For assistence finding Scottish ancestors, I suggest
> you join a Scottish list. Please don't ask for assistence for
> Scotland here or troll for Scottish ancestors.
>
> The reason is that Scottish genealogy is different from Irish.
> People who really do expect to make progress in genealogy need to
> learn to locate the resource they need, not the wrong resource.
> Othewise you are like the man who was searching for his missing
> keys under the streetlight. A friend said "But didn't you drop
> them over there???" and he said "Yes, but it is lighter over
> here, so I'm searching here."
>
> By the same token, you probably go to a dentist for your teeth and
> a podiatrist for your feet. This list purports to have a speciality
> in records of Irish Protestants, not Scotland. Expecting help with
> Scottish ancestors here is like asking the podiatrist to help with
> your feet.
>
> Please don't mislead folks by attempting to search for Scottish
> ancestors here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Linda Merle SI Admin
>
> ______________________________
>
>

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