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From: malinda <>
Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] methodical approach
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:28:45 -0600
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Sounds like a great book and CD addition to the web.
Why don't we try to talk Linda into writing it ?
Once she gets moved into her new digs, of course.


"Knut W. Barde" wrote:

> Leyburn, in his book the Scotch-Irish, discusses the five waves of emigration to the colonies, 1717/18, 1725/29,
> 1740, 1753/54, and 1774. For each of these periods he quotes sources that provide a sense of the magnitude of
> emigration, the type of people that left, and the locations from where they left. No doubt other historians have
> similar summaries.
> It seems to me that it ought to be possible with the fast computers we have these days to create a data base that
> uses all publically available genealogy information, including private genealogies that have been published, and
> sources like the LDS website, to create one list that contains the names of all known scotch-irish emigrants from
> the European side and scotch-irish immigrants on this side, the circumstances and dates of their passage, etc.,
> etc. The total for the five waves is estimated at 200,000 to 400,000, and it seems that once one has a set of
> data of a subset of individuals that are accurately known (does anyone even have a guess of how many of the 200k
> to 400k are known for certain?), one can then plot and trace the preferred locations of departure and arrival,
> places of residence in Ireland and in the colonies, clustering of groups and names and dates, etc. So far it
> seems all one gets is a pile of unconnected and/or anecdotal accounts. There must be an intermediate step
> between saying 5000 came in 1717/18 and gggggdaddy John arrived on the good ship Hope in Philadelphia on June 1,
> 1717.
> When entire villages in Ireland were emptied according to their bishops and others who addressed the issue, there
> must be more data out there than has been accessible to the general public. Thousands of people on clustered
> dates and clustered regions did the same thing for decades on end, and it is from these individual data that the
> summaries referred to above were compiled.
> Would the burning of the Irish records in ? really have destroyed the kind of compilations of data that I am
> wondering about?
> If the abc religious population of village xyz in 1740 up and went to America, then that would be a significant
> piece of information.
> Such a methodical approach obviously costs money.
> But imagine if there were one list with every known scotch-irish immigrant and the pertinent data, and the ability
> to then massage that data in a myriad different ways to reveal trends, clusters, connections, etc., etc.
> Sort of a quantitative approach to genealogy, which probably goes against the grain of the old school that says,
> nothing doing except primary records.
> I guess I am looking for something similar to the books called Germans to America, except searchable for all data
> fields. Is there set of books called Scotch-Irish to America?
> The fact that genealogy is such a personal and individual endeavour seems to take our eyes away from aggregating
> data that then could result in documented group migration patterns for specific groups, locations, time periods.
> Someone will probably say this is the lazy person's dream of genealogy.
> Knut

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