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From: Charles Clark <>
Subject: Re: [Scotch-Irish] Monument in Cathedral of St Patricks
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:40:08 +1300
First, I suggest you also put this material on the STEWART list. They
know about Stewarts, though not as much as one would like about Irish
Stewarts. So you might do just as well here, I suppose.
Second, you appear to be slowly getting towards defining these people as
being of the aristocracy. difficult thing to admit to in a country full
of convicts such as Oz, of course (okay, as a kiwi I couldn't resist
that one, but if there are aristocratic connections we'll get further
faster if you front up with them and take the risk of getting insults
from your fellow ockers!)
Thirdly, the Cathedral of St Patricks is in Dublin.
Now, let's look at the Baronets Stewart listed in Burke:
1)Stewart of Athenree, co Tyrone. The current head of the family (in
1970, date of the edition of Burke's that I am quoting from) is Sir Hugh
Charlie Godfray Stewart, 6th Bt. But more interesting is that from 26
Feb 1905 til he dsp (died childless) on 18 Jan 1942, the head of the
family was Sir Hugh Houghton Stewart, 4th Bt. So there are a couple of
Hugh Stewarts for you.
However, he got that title on the death of his father, Sir John Marcus
Stewart, 3rd Bt. And that name is not so very similar to your "Donald
2) The next entry is Stewart of Balgownie, which appears to be merely
Scots, so I won't bother with it, the Stewart of Fingask, similarly.
3) Now we come to Stewart of Ramelton. The current Baronet is Sir
Jocelyn Harry Stewart, 12th Bt. He got the title from his father, Sir
Harry Jocelyn Urquhart Stewart, 11th Baronet, who succeeded his brother
on 4 Jan 1894, and died on 12 May 1945. Jocelyn could perhaps be misread
as Donald, so we might perhaps have the Donald and the Harry in this
but no Hugh.
4) A couple more of those pesky Scots, Stewart of Stewartby and Stewart
5) A Henderson-Stewart and a Shaw-Stewart, neither of whom have mush
Irish in them as far as I can see.
Conclusion: Both the Athenree and Ramelton Stewarts sound promising, but
I am sure you must have more information you are not giving us, which is
frustrating, because Burke's Peerage is a goldmine once you can tap into
But you seem to be finding this difficult, if you are struggling even
with your mother's first cousin.
Ascot Investment & Management Pty Ltd wrote:
> To List Members,
> I wonder if someone can help me. I have a letter dated September 1906 from France that gives the following information, unfortunately I do not know exactly where it is referring to in England.
If it refers to the Cathedral of St Patricks it is not really referring
to anywhere in England at all, but in Ireland.
> Extract of letter:-
> The death of Donald Harry John, Earl of STEWART (possibly House of Stewart) made our Uncle head of the family SIR Hugh STEWART, BARONET possesses the name and the title. Nowadays Donald STEWART (1st cousin to our mother ... Anna Maria STEWART VERON born in Dublin) is the English hero, they have built him a monument in the Cathedral of St Patricks.
> Does this ring any bells with anyone? Before I can lookup a lot of places I need a town or even Country to start with. I know they talk of their history and ancestors in Ireland and England. I am really stuck on this and would appreciate some help.
Who is the "they" who talk of their history and ancestors etc?
And incidentally, one of your names below, ie Mountjoy, might just be
Irish as well. Among other things, that's the name of the Dublin prison!
> Kay Veron
> Researching World Wide:
> United Kingdom ... BURT / WYTCH / MOUNTJOY / PRICE
> France ... VERON / BELLAMY / DELUEN
> World Wide .... STEWART / NEWBERGH
> India .... DAUGHTER for RAJAH OF MYSORE
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