Scotch-Irish-L Archives

Archiver > Scotch-Irish > 1998-03 > 0890019971


From: "Aaron Orr" <>
Subject: Re: Believe it/believe it not
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:46:11 -0500


Dave:

I hope to heaven it meant "upside down" for if it was the family
chamber-pot turnewd upside down it would "absowutewy wuin Burke's peewage"
don't you thing.

Personally I think aman of hs Lordship's status would be dvilishly hard up
if he was reduced to putting "the article" (as my Dublin step-dad called
it) in the family crest.

Aaron

----------
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Believe it/believe it not
> Date: March 14, 1998 9:45 PM
>
> This seems like a very interesting new topic, found on the GenBrit list,
> I think.
>
>
> DG> wrote:
> DG>>
> DG>> Mike Gallafent () wrote:
> DG>> > 'There are innumerable charges used in heraldry, ranging from the
fleur-
> DG>> > de-lis, a stylised form of the madonna lily, to the unique urinal
crest
> DG>> > of Dr. Louys Caerlyon (1483).'
> DG>> >
> DG>> > The question is why one would select a urinal for a family crest?
> DG>> > Although not listed in Fairbairn, one could muse upon a Welsh
origin
> DG>> > perhaps, hence dialysis or an early misconception of becoming a
privy
> DG>> > councillor.
> DG>>
> DG>> LOL
> DG>>
> DG>> Chambers (how *very* apposite) has:
> DG>> urinant (heraldry): diving; head-downward. (Latin "urinari", to
plunge).
> DG>> Is that possibly relevant?
> DG>>
> DG>> Also that "urinal" was originally a chamber-pot. Different root,
though.
> DG>>
> DG>> DaveB

This thread: