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From: Dave Culbertson <>
Subject: Re: Migration- when and why
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:54:28 -0500
Interesting clairification. I gave the account from my family history
book which was written many years ago, and it does have errors. However,
I'm glad that it was ok on 6 of 10 since I try to be an optimist and
look at the bright side of a situation.
Edward Andrews wrote:
> Dave Culbertson wrote:
> Sorry there are one or two errors of fact and interpritation in the
> > My family history lists the reason for my Ancestor leaving Scotland as a
> > Scotch Covenanter and was driven from Scotland during the rein of James
> > II of England.
> You do not make it clear that the King of England was/is the King of
> > King Charles II ascended the throne of England in 1660 and persecutions
> > of the Covenanters began about 1665 and continued throught his rein.
> > Poor Scotch Presbterians being hunted down without mercy, sought refuge
> > in Northern Ireland.
> Charles succeeded a Republic which had been responsible for the
> execution of his Father.
> He reimposed the episcopalian form of Church Government, despite
> having solumly sworn in 1651 to support Presbyteruianish.
> As well as the more obvious military repression, there were many
> subtle ways of attacking Covenanters - fines for non attendange at
> Church, billiting of Soldiers in private houses
> > King Charles II was a Catholic. On the death of King Charles II in 1685,
> > his son, James II ascended the throne.
> Charles only bcame a Cathlic on his death bed. James II & VII was not
> his son,, but his brother.
> Persecution of the Covenanteers
> > in both Scotland and Ireland accellerated.
> Despite James desire for toleration - as a Roman Cathoic himslef,
> both he and his coreligionists suffered from the various laws which
> had been psaaed in Charles' reign against relitous dissent.
> Many of the Church of Scotland had taken advantage of the various
> offeres of toleration from the crown.
> However a small group lead in the main by Richard Cameron engaged in
> open rebellion. Declaring that the King was deposed they fought a
> running war with the King's forces in the South West.
> For other and unconnected reasons many of the magnates in England
> were inhappy about the policy of James, and invited his Son in Law,
> William of Orange - as well as his nephew, a grandson of Charles I to
> become King.
> While in England this change of powere was accomplished with little
> opposition, in both Scotland and Ireland the supporters of James
> resisted change of King.
> People like Claverhouse who had been persicution the Covenanters
> turned to fighting the Supporters of William.
> In Ireland the S-I felt threatened by the actions of the supporters.
> They withdrew to the defended towns of Derry and Enniskillen
> The Scotch-Irish rose in
> > rebellion against King James II and fled for their lives to several
> > fortified cities in Northern Ireland. One of these cities was
> > Londonderry. Within its walls 7000 men were beseiged and at the end of
> > the seige their numbers were reduced to 3000 by famine and disease.
> > William, Prince of Orange, with a large fleet then sailed into
> > Londonderry Bay and drove King James II away in 1688.
> It was actually three ships
> In 1690 the Great
> > Battle of Boyne was fought by the forces of William and King James II
> > and the latter was completely routed. James II became an exile, while
> > William ascended the throne. After this the Scotch-Irish had comparative
> > quiet for a while.
> > So it depends upon when your people left Scotland and what their
> > religion may have been. If they did not practice the "proper" religion
> > of the King or Queen at the time, they were in real trouble. This is one
> > of the primary reasons for people who left Scotland for Ireland. They
> > were simply fleeing for their very lives.
> > Dave Culbertson
> Sorry 4 markes out of 10, narrow fail
> Edward Andrews
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