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From: "Edward Andrews" <>
Subject: Re: Cromwell's Corpse
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:13:27 0
> From: JRose10700 <>
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:16:24 EST
> Subject: Re: Cromwell's Corpse
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> but you are right . Old Ollie did have an impact. What concerns me most is
> the demolition of statues and other art work in churches that he and hios men
> did not approve of.
As probably the only person on the list who has a direct interest on
an institution which was damaged by Cromwell
Kirk Session Minutes
AD. 1650 - November 21st :
The whilk day the minister Mr. Hugh Campbell, having come to the
Parish but acht or ten days before, being affrighted to come near it
by reason of the great concourse of the English Army therein,
desiring to know what moneys might be in the Poor's Box and calling
for the keys thereof from those who were entrusted therewith, and not
getting the same, by advice of the bai11ies and .some other elders,
caused break up the said Box, it being by this time in Marion
Saddler's house, the Kirk being so filled with horse and guards, that
neither sermon nor session could be kept therein.
AD. 1650 - December 29th :
The whilk day the minister began his first sermon in the Parish Kirk
of Dalkeith after he had a little breathing from fear of being abused
by the English sectaries in case he should have preached publicly in
his own pulpit, and the Kirk was cleansed of the muck that was
therein, the same.serving to them as if it had been a stable.
Perhaps I can comment?
How much iconoclasm were the Cromwellians responsible for in
England? It is something which we hear about, but there seem to be
pretty few records. It is like us. Our apse is still unroofed. This
was not due to Cromwell, or the Reformation, but by Somerset in the
rough wooing of 1542.
Secondly the material loss was nothing to the loss of people.
Scotland lost perhaps 1/4 of her population between 1638 and 1651.
Thirdly, one of the psychological needs for a revolution is the need
to remove the icons of the previous regime. - We have seen this with
the removal of symbols in the post Cold War revolutions in Eastern
> How can you be considered a great man if you have to tear down what others
> have created?
I have little time for Cromwell, but as the Marxists tell us the
Civil War was the Bourgeois Revolution in Britain. It led to the
transfer of power in Britain which made further democratic
The fact of a revolution is that it is the violent tearing down of
the established order.
St Nicholas Buccleuch Parish Church Dalkeith, Midlothian Scotland
Visit our Web site http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/index.ht
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