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From: John Carpenter <>
Subject: Re: Closed minds reinforce decay
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:11:23 -0800 (PST)

That's not exactly what I meant. Since the English
set up the plantations to subdue the Irish Catholic
presence and then did their best to suppress
Catholicism AND Presbyterianism and any other ism but
Church of England, it seems logical to me that the
Orangemen would have preferred alliance with the
Irish or perhaps their own independance rather than
remaining part of the UK. And are there not babies
being blow up and old ladies losing legs in Ulster
and in England and in Nigeria, and in Bosnis,
so much hatred in the world and so much of not even
directed at those who could have made things
different and chose not to.

---Edward Andrews wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 06:20:40 -0800 (PST)
> > From: John Carpenter
> > Subject: Re: Closed minds reinforce decay
> > To:
> > Cc:
> > or bad. I think the English should be the target
> > there has to be a target in Northern Ireland,
> > they set it up and used it to try to control the
> > people, but I have more English ancestry than
> That I regret is utter tosh.
> The setting up of Northern Ireland was a solution
to a very pressing
> problem in the 1920s.
> It was the people of Ulster, on both sides who
allowed the tensions
> to fester.
> Any way while the English are the largest past of
the United
> Kingdom, it is not fair to blame them for the ills
of the world.
> Scots and Irish and Welsh. have helped them on
their way Lloyd George
> was for example Welsh, and so on.
> The parallel in American terms would be to blame
everything which
> the US has done wrong on the inhabitants of a
particular state.
> What does the statement "the English" should be
the target. The
> target for what? Bombs and Bullets. Two year olds
blown up in their
> pushchairs, Grannies with their legs blown off?
> Edward Andrews
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