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Subject: Re: Scottish Battle Tactics
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:42:53 -0500 (EST)
I am sending this to the list because I may have been misunderstood, and
therefore offensive to some. I want everyone to know I did not mean any
disrespect. So, the first part of the following message explains. The
second part is off topic, but is a continuation so....you'll get it all, but
only read what you want.
In a message dated 97-11-04 15:35:03 EST, writes:
<< Do you really think Roman Legionaires went to war in their short tunics?
>As with the Turkish garb--it was all ceremonial. The Scots even up till
>now are known for their astutness and bravery. All other Western
>nations, faced with difficult war ploys,would run away. Even 1970's wars
>show this. The Scots in British wars have taken major parts.
> Who wrote first to decry the Scots? I believe they have stirred up a
>hornet's nest. Don't cross a Scotsman face to face!
I certainly never meant to denigrade Scottish bravery. Just the opposite.
It is my understanding that in most battles the Scots were facing
insurmountable odds and yet their sense of honor and courage made them take a
Yes, I did think the Romans went to war in their thigh length tunics.
Any depiction I have seen of a Roman battle has them in a short tunic
covered with a metal breastplate and leather skirt-like panels. If this is
not what they wore, what was?
You were the one that said:
>>> << kilt raising ploy at the start of battle, which is
>>> true and was aimed at chasing away the stronger heterosexuals on the
>>> field so's the opposing "gays",(we have better Doric words) could be run
>>> down. >>
I truly wanted to know if this was a military tactic. I was not being
facetious. I thought to ignore the heterosexual vs gay angle, but otherwise
I was serious. Never having been in a physical fight of any kind, I was
under the impression that one of the strategies was to make your opponent
cross the line between logical tactics and blind fury. I had assumed that
lifting your kilt and waving at the opponent would do this, but never had I
considered that it was a planned strategy until you mentioned it.
I have read quite a bit of military history, but it was all of a later
vintage. All the combatants wore pants, so the question of whether to use
this tactic would be moot. I am trying to convey the point that I am
interested in this in the light of military history. As a married woman I am
well aware of what is beneath a Scotsman's kilt, and I don't think I have an
extra purient interest in this....I simply wondered if kilt-raising was a
pre-planned and orchestrated part of the battle plan.
I think we have probably taken this farther than most members want to
go, so if you would e-mail me I would really like to know about this.
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