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From: Pat Traynor <>
Subject: Re: ROSS/OHIO
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:35:09 -0500
You wrote .......
>I am told my Great Grandfather's family was Scotch-Irish. He was James D.
>ROSS b. 1840 Ohio. He lived most his life in the southern Ohio area.
>I'm trying to determine if he was really Scotch-Irish or that was the story
>told by early Irish immigrants who wanted to differentiate themselves from
>the Irish immigrants that came over as a result of the famine. Am told this
>was done quite frequently by early Irish settlers.
>How would I do that?
In genealogy, every answer you find to a question creates two more questions!
Sounds like your Ross,s were settlers in Ireland from Scotland, probably in
But, as you will see below, they could also have been of the O'Ruis Irish
clan that went to Scotland in very early times and became "Scottish" over
Some O'Ruis,s may have never gone to Scotland and would be native Irish.
Here's an item concerning that;
Irish Pedigrees states that the following Scottish families are of Celtic
Irish origin, whose ancestors at an early period peopled Galloway and
CAMBELL, COLQUHOUN, LAMONT, MacALLISTER, MacARTHUR, MacCALLUM, MacCRORY,
MacDONALD, MacDOUGALL, MacGREGOR, MacLACHLIN OR MacLAUGHLIN, MacLEAN,
MacNEAL, MacQUARY, etc. (Have no idea how many other names would be included
in the "etc.")
One of the signers of "The Declaration of Independence" was George Ross.
General Robert Ross was Commander-in-Chief of the English army
sent against the United States.
Ros (Ir., "a promontory") of the O'Leary pedigree was ancestor of O'Ruis,
anglicized as Ross and Rush. His son was Laeghaire, a quo, O'Leary.
From "Irish Pedigrees" by John O'Hart. vol. 1 of 2.
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore 1976
Fifth edition, in two volumes. Original printing, Dublin, 1892
Out of print. Found in many LDS Family History Centers and some
library reference sections.
Ross was probably a British name that was used as a translation for RUIS.
So a Ross could be native Irish or British/Scottish.
These are the associated families of the Scottish ROSS clann;
Anderson, Andison, Andrews, Corbett, Crowe, Croy, Deas, Denoon,
Dingwall, Dithie, Fair, Fearn, Gillanders, Hagart, Haggart,
Lockhart, MacAndrew, McCullie, McCulloch, McLullich, MacTaggert,
MacTear, MacTier, MacTyre, Mitchell, Taggart, Tarrell, Tullo,
Tulloch, Vass, Wass, Waters.
Pat Traynor, in California's gold-rush country.