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From: Ella Patterson <>
Subject: Re: Scotch and Chocolate/Yuck
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 08:10:55 +0100 ()
Do you mean whisky or whiskey? One is Scotch, the other is
On Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:44:16 PDT Joan McIlmoyl Cleghorn
> ** Reply to note from Mon, 1 Sep 1997 10:59:56 -0400 (EDT)
> > At the risk of being thrown off the list - which I dearly love, am I the only
> > one of Scots/Irish descent that has never tasted Scotch or whiskey? I come
> > from a long line of teetotalers. Also, I gave up chocolate a few years ago
> > to save my girlish figure, hehehe.
> Well Katie, as is so often the case with those of us with Scotch/Irish
> ancestry - it's one extreme or the other<g>. The only ones who seem to
> manage the "middle ground" are those with a good proportion of "other"
> origins mixed in<bg>
> I too love this list - I've learned more in the short time I've
> subscribed than in my entire life. Unlike a few, I've thoroughly
> enjoyed the posts re colloquial language. Of course, if those on
> the southern side of the Can/US border could just learn how to say
> "roof" and "about" properly.....<ggggg> Thanks all.
> I may as well ask a couple of questions while I'm at it. Do any of you
> with those neat books of names have anything on
> Mcimoil/Mcilmoil/McIlmoyl/McElmoyl/(with or without an "e" at the end)?
> According to family stories, we originated in Scotland (in or around
> Edinburgh) then to Ulster. I found my gggg-grandfather, John McELMOYL,
> on the 1766 Ahoghill Parish census and the family left for North America
> on June 17, 1774 (family members have the receipt for the passage). I
> also have a transcription of a letter of intro written by the C of I
> Ahoghill Parish priest, _________ Babington, on June 15, 1774, stating
> that John McIllmoil was a Protestant of the Established Church, behaved
> himself and "Educated a Numorous Family in a Christian Manner".
> Also, John's wife was Mary DYSART/DISERT/DYSERT who presumably was also
> from Antrim, possibly Ahoghill as I found a Hugh DISERT listed with John
> on the Ahoghill Parish census. She had a brother/uncle(?)James, who
> went to Virginia and had a business there. John's eldest son, Archibald,
> travelled to Carolina with a group of young men, ended up teaching then
> joined the Dysart business. According to family history (undocumented as
> yet) Archibald ends up as secretary to Colonel (later General) Crooks,
> Aide-de-Camp to Washington, while the rest of the family who settled in
> Balston (Ball's Town) - near Saratoga, New York, were all active British
> Any info on the DYSARTs would also be appreciated.
> Chocolate to Linda for a great list.
> Joan McIlmoyl Cleghorn From Langford in beautiful Victoria BC Canada
> Sprouted from: McILMOYL: IRL>VA/NY,USA>ON/BC,CAN
> MUNRO: SCT>NY?USA>ON/AB/BC,CAN SIMPSON: KENT,ENG>BC,CAN
> MILLS: FERMANAGH,IRL>BC,CAN WAIN: KENT,ENG>BC,CAN
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