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Subject: Re: Seeking McNiece
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:08:53 -0400 (EDT)

Per McLysaght's Surnames of Ireland
MacNeish - Nish A sept of the Scottish clan MacGregor. Sometimes a synomym
of MacNiece

MacNee - Mac Niadh (niadh, champion) A branch of the Scottish clan
MacGregor. It is also used as a variant of the quite distinct Connacht Mac
Nea(gh), MacNay, Mac Neidhe (also from Niadh, champion)

(O) Nee, Nedham O Niadh (for derivation see MacNee). In Co. Galway this
preserves the correct anglicized form Nee, but in Mayo it is sometimes called
Needham. There was also a co-arb family of the name in Co. Limerick, now

Per Black's Surnames of Scotland:

MacNee, Magnay, Macney, Magnea, Macneigh, Magnia Ir Mac niadh, a variant of
Mac neidhe, 'son of Nia" i.e. the champion. Macnia, king of Ard of the Ui
Echadh, a district in the baronies of Upper and Lower Iveagh, county Down, d.
702. Macnia comarb of Buite, quievit 1037/ In 15gh century documents as ER,
we have M'Knee

No specific listing as MacNiece.
Neeson: Neison, Neisson Anglicized forms of MacNeish, q.v. F G P Nelsson d.
1876, statistical writer, was born in Kilmarnock, Neyssoune 1467.

Bell's Book of Ulster Surnames

MacNeice - see MacGuinnes

MacGGuinness (also Ennis, MacCreesh, MacNeice, MacNiece, Magennis, Minnis and

MacGuinness is a well known name in Connacht and is numerous in Leinster.
But the name is most common in Ulster, where it originates. It is in Gaelic
either Mag Aonghusa or Mag Aonghuis, both of which mean 'son of Angus'. The
name is now found in over 20 different spellings and has further given rise
to a variety of other names.

The MacGuinnesses were one of the most important septs of Ulster. They
descend from Saran, a Cruthnic chief in St. Patrick's time. Initially the
MacGuinnesses were chiefs of Clann Aodha under the O'Haugheys, Chiefs of
Iveagh in Co. Down. But by the 12th century the Mac Guinnesses were Lords of
Iveagh and from their main stronghold in Rathfriland they controlled most of
Co. Down for the following 400 years.

In the 16th century, well before the Plantation, many of the MacGuinnesses
acccepted the Reformation and indeed there were Protestant MacGuinness
bishops of Down and of Dromore at that time.......... (some text edited)
The name MacNeice or MacNiece is in Gaelic Mac Naois, a variant of
MacGuinness. TThe Antrim name Neeson is in Gaelic Mac Aonghusa, also
anglicized as MacNeece. (some text edited) Minnis and Mannice are east
Ulster variants of MacNeece and MacNish. MacNish and MacNeish can both be
variants of MacNeice or can equally represent a sept of the Scottish Clan
Louis MacNeice `1907-63, son of a Church of Ireland bishop, was born in
Belfast. He is regarded as one of the most important Irish poets of the 20th


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