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From: Ruth Cattles Cottrell <>
Subject: Re: [SHAFER] SHAVER and SHAFER buried in Williamson Co., TX
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:57:26 -0500
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Betty-Anne,

I'm astounded. Thank You, Thank You. I have only been beating on this for
30 years and you are the first one in all these years who may have something
to add. I have to digest all this tonight, look at some records I have and
get back to you, but at first reading I see several possibilities here. The
Lewis line has got me stumped, too, but I do have a little to share on that.
All the researchers I have ever contacted were on the proven lines of
William and Aggy and knew nothing else or were on the Jacob line and knew
less than me.

Ruth


----- Original Message -----
From: "Betty-Anne Juba" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SHAFER] SHAVER and SHAFER buried in Williamson Co., TX


> Hi Ruth
>
> Maybe I can help with the brick wall - I do not know for sure who William
> Shaver was but I believe that Jacob is the son of John Shaffer and Mary.
>
> Mary was John's last wife (three in all that I know of). When John died
the
> probate named the minor children. Amongst the children who were named a
> Sara Sally Shaffer b. 1807 and a Jacob Shaffer b. 1815.
>
> The information I have about William is that Sally was born about 6 years
> before William married Agnes Parker. My Sally had been indentured twice -
> first to William Lewis Jr. - he died - then to Jonathan Fine a Methodist
> Preacher - who left for Missouri in late 1820.
>
> There is no record of either Sally or Jacob after the probate in TN 1819.
> Sally's mother was probably Nancy Hopkins - believed to be John's first
> wife.
>
> William Lewis Jr. is first cousin to Sally Lewis and second cousin to
> Elizabeth Lewis. If I have all the information correct. William was
married
> to Margaret McLaughlin.
>
> Mary unknown last name - remarried to Henry McGill very quickly after
John's
> death - the only minor child that was not indentured out was Jacob - who
was
> probably her only child. John's second wife Sally Henniger must have died
> after 1813 and before 1819. John died in 1819 and Mary was listed as the
> widow.
>
> I have no proof yet but I think that William was an older son of John and
as
> he was not a minor was not named.
>
> All the other children named have been accounted for - Nancy 1801- m. John
T
> Bolding; Thomas m Sally Lewis ( a cousin of Elizabeth Lewis that Jacob
> married I think- if Elizabeth's parents were Levi Lewis and Rebecca
> Spangler); Frances 'Fanny' m Eslie Quiett; Henry m unknown (my line) -
>
> If this sounds like a possibility I have done lines for the others --
there
> was another child who was not named as she was older - Abigail 1785 who
> married Joseph Henry Woolsey her second husband and the husband of three
of
> her daughters was the infamous John Doyle Lee. (quite a story here) - one
> has to be careful about the info on line about this couple - there is a
lot
> of speculation about them and John Shaffer - most prove out wrong about
> John.
>
> There is 6 years between the oldest and the next oldest of John's
children.
> I believe there was a William and a John at the very least.
>
> John has been called Shaver, Shaffer and Shafer - mostly John Shaffer Snr.
> John's parents are believed to be Abigail Oliver and Jacob Shaffer (they
are
> my brick wall) along with Nancy Hopkins.
>
> Betty-Anne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ruth Cattles Cottrell" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [SHAFER] SHAVER and SHAFER buried in Williamson Co., TX
>
>
> > Well, William Granville wasn't the only one who changed it to Shafer in
> > Texas - the whole bunch did. Kay, I suppose we have conversed before
> since
> > I have your name in my address book. When Aggy Parker Shaver, William's
> > widow got to Texas the first time any of them are in the census, they
are
> > Shafer. I have the misfortune of descending from Hugh Shafer, son of
> Jacob
> > and Elizabeth Lewis Shaver / Shafer who came with Aggy and was living
next
> > door to her in Milam County, Texas. And therein stands the brick wall.
> Of
> > course, Jacob is not in William's will. I suspect he may have been
> brother
> > to William and brother-in-law to Aggy - have never been able to prove it
> > though.
> >
> > Here is a recycled query I run occasionally:
> >
> > Jacob SHAVER / SHAFER b. 1815 in Tennessee, m. 1 Aug 1833 to Elizabeth
> LEWIS
> > in Morgan Co., Alabama. Jacob and his family traveled and lived closely
> > with William and Agnes "Aggy" Parker SHAVER / SHAFER. Jacob may have
been
> > the oldest son of William and Agnes, except that Jacob was not listed in
> > William's will. In 1840 and 1850, Jacob and family were in Franklin
> County,
> > AL while William's family were still in Morgan County, AL. Most
probably
> > Jacob and a Hugh were younger brothers of William. After the death of
> > William, Aggy moved the family to Milam Co., Texas before 1870. Jacob
> > and his family traveled with and lived next door to Aggy SHAVER / SHAFER
> > in Texas. The name changed to SHAFER once the family got to Texas.
> >
> > I am looking for proof, possibly in Roane County, TN that Jacob,
William,
> > and Hugh were brothers and who their parents were.
> >
> > Ruth Cottrell
> > Irving, TX
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SHAFER] SHAVER and SHAFER buried in Williamson Co., TX
> >
> >
> > > Cynthia,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. I don't believe my relatives were ever from New
> > York.
> > > My earliest known ancestor was William Shaver, born between 1780-1790
in
> > TN.
> > > He was married in Roane Co., TN in 1814 and died in Morgan Co., AL in
> > 1839.
> > > His son, William Granville Shaver was born between 1822-1825 in Morgan
> > Co.,
> > > AL and married in 1845 and again in 1852 in Morgan Co., AL. He died
in
> > > Williamson Co., TX in 1873 or 1874. It was William Granville Shaver
who
> > > changed the name to Shafer.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kay
> > >
> > >
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