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From: robert maceachern <>
Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] SCT-ISLEOFMULL Digest, Vol 3, Issue 162
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:17:43 -0700
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My 4x great grandmother was a MacQuarrie, her name was Catherine, and lived in Ormaig, she married a Neil MacEachern about 1780, Neils sons later left Scotland and settled in Boulardrie, Nova Scotia, Canada about 1820's. Just wondering if anyone has a connection to this couple, I know records for this period are very scarce.

Ian MacEachern > From: > Subject: SCT-ISLEOFMULL Digest, Vol 3, Issue 162> To: > Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 01:01:58 -0600> > > > PLEASE don't reply with the whole digest attached. Remember when replying to a message, which was received through the digest. You'll have to change the subject line to reflect which message your responding to. You'll have to cut and paste the necessary information into a new message then cc the list and original poster.> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: MacQuarie of Ormaig (Thomas W Bennion)> 2. McInnes Muddle (Joy & John)> 3. Re: McInnes Muddle (Linda Towne)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:25:38 -0400> From: "Thomas W Bennion" <>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacQuarie of Ormaig> To: <>> Message-ID: <>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Tom,> I thought of you too when I say the John MacQuarrie & Mary Campbell. Sorry > it was not the right one.> > I'll keep my eyes open and if I come across anything, I'll be sure to let > you know.> > Linda> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom McQuarrie" <>> To: <>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:11 PM> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacQuarie of Ormaig> > > >I read this with great interest. My ancestors include a John and Mary> > Campbell MacQuarrie.But Feb 2 1841 John is listed as being from Ormaig on> > his banns of marriage.> > His parents were Allan and Marion MacArthur McQuarrie siblings Margaret ,> > Mary, Anne, Catherine and Lauchlin> > His grandparents Alexander and Catherine their children Allan John Anne> > Hector and two Lauchlins> > I have additional specific dates etc. but the family's above all lived in> > Ormaig or Craigaig very close to each other on Ulva.> > May be a link in there someplace.> > Tom McQuarrie> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Thomas W Bennion" <>> > To: "." <>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:44 PM> > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacQuarie of Ormaig> >> >> >> Came across an interesting account of this family last week and since> >> there was quite a bit of activity about MacQuaire's (various spellings) > >> on> >> the list a few weeks ago, though I would share this with the list.> >> Would appreciate it if anyone on the list can connect to/add to this> >> information since so many of the MacQuarie's married into the> >> MacLean/MacLaine families.> >>> >> From: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of Great Britian and > >> Ireland,> >> by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (1863), p. 955: "MacQuarie of Ormaig -> >> MacQuarie, John, Esq., of Ormaig, co. Argyll, b. in Sept. 1800; m. Feb.> >> 1826, Mary Campbell, and has issue (unfortunately, the names of the issue> >> are not provided!).> >>> >> Lineage - The Macquaries first appear in the possession of the island of> >> Ulva, and part of Mull, and their situation forced them, at a very early> >> period, to become dependent on the Macdonalds. But their descent from the> >> clan Alpine, which has constantly been asserted by tradition, is> >> established by an old MS of the year 1450, which deduces their origin > >> from> >> Guaire or Godfrey, a brother of Fingon, ancestor of the Mackinnons, and> >> Andrew, ancestor of the Macgregors. On the forfeiture of the last Lord of> >> the Isles, they became, like the Mackinnons, in a manner independent; and> >> although surrounded by various powerful clans, they maintained their> >> station, which was that of a minor clan, without apparently undergoing > >> any> >> alteration, and survived many of the revolutions of fortune to which the> >> greater clans were exposed.> >>> >> Donald MacQuarie, of that Ilk, the 12th generation of the ancient house > >> he> >> represented, m. Christian, dau. of Lauchlan-Oig Maclean, founder of the> >> family of Torloisk, and had issue, 1) Alan, of the Ilk, major in the > >> army,> >> a stedfast royalist, slaind with his cousin, Sir Hector Maclean, of> >> Dowart, at the battle of Inverkeithing, in 1651, he was ancestor of the> >> MacQuaries, of that Ilk; 2) Hector, of whom presently; 3) Lauchlan,> >> ancestor of the MacQuaries of Laggan; 4) John, ancestor of the Macquaires> >> of Ballighartan.> >>> >> The 2nd son, Hector MacQuarie, of Ormaig, had a company in Maclean's> >> regt., and distinguished himself at Killiecrankie. He m. Miss Macleod,> >> sister of Donald Maclean, Esq., major in the service of the > >> states-general> >> of Holland, had had three sons, 1) John, who d.v.p.; 2) Donald, successor> >> to his father; 3) Alexander who d. unm.> >>> >> The 2nd son, Donald MacQuarie, of Ormaig, m. Margaret, dau. of Hector-Owr> >> Maclean, of Lochbuy, and had (with four daus. - Flora, m. to John> >> Macquarie, of Ballighartan; Unna, m. to Hector Maclean, merchant, in > >> Mull;> >> Janet and Mary) a son, Hector.> >>> >> Hector MacQuarie, of Ormaig, who m. Anne, 4th dau. of Sir John Maclean, > >> of> >> Dowart, Bart., and was father of> >>> >> Allan MacQuarie, Esq., of Ormaig, who m. in 1798, Miss Macquarie, and had> >> (with a dau., Flora, m. 23 Feb. 1834), a son, the present John MacQuarie,> >> Esq. of Ormaig."> >>> >>> >> Have attempted to leave all spelling as it was provided in the source.> >>> >> Looking forward to hearing if anyone of the list can connect to this> >> family.> >>> >> Thanks,> >> Linda Bennion> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:49:06 +1000> From: "Joy & John" <>> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McInnes Muddle> To: "mull list" <>> Message-ID: <004a01c8b5b0$21fdc590$>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi Ida,> > The birthdate for Christina 22 Oct 1836 is from the Mull site and it says it is from the OPR.> > She is listed as 9 years old with the family in the 1841 Census which would give a birth year of 1832/33.> > On her mother's death certificate dated 1877 she is listed as 34 years old which would also give a birth year of 1833.> > She married Robert Hart in Australia in May 1850 so she had emigrated before that date. She could not write and made her mark instead of signing her marriage certificate.> > I cannot check the 1851 Census because all census papers were destroyed in Australia and were not kept - much to the great disappointment of all the Aussie Genies! We are hoping this practice is going to change in the future.> > I think it is becoming more and more obvious that she was born before her parents were married. Maybe Dougald is not even her biological father. Maybe the birth was not recorded because she was illegitimate.> > I have considered that she may have come out to Australia at a different time to the rest of the family. I have checked the shipping records but have not been able to find a Christina McInnes close to the correct age coming here - even trying all different spellings of the name!> > She is definitely part of my family that is listed on the Immigration List even though she is not on it. > I have obituaries from other family members and she is listed in them as a sister and also on her mother's death cert.> > This Christina is certainly elusive! > Thank you for all your help so far Ida.> I really appreciate it.> > Kind regards,> Joy> Australia> > > Hi Joy and June> > Thank you for this.> > As Christina is not amongst the family you listed perhaps the 2nd couple > of Dugald McInnes and Mary McDonald should be explored.> > I'm not sure which certificate June has but # 1Dugald McInnes married > Mary McDonald Mar 24 1835 Iona M115382, 0033> #2 > Dugald McInnes married Mary McDonald Feb 24 1836 Iona 7426815, 21> > When June and I were exploring some of her family she noted her ancestor > signed with an x and the other was able to sign his name.> This might be a way of checking your family as well.> > The birthdate you have for Christina Oct 22 1836 is this from a > registration, a death record or a headstone?> > Have you checked the 1851 census region for the McInnes family does it > have the year of emigration listed as well?> > Your Robert Hart did you find him in the 1851 census with Christina was > the years of emigration listed there as well ? If not you may have to > check all the census until you find one that recorded the year of > emigration.> > Might be that Christina and her parents came over either earlier or > later than the family you listed below.> > Ida> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:17:50 -0400> From: "Linda Towne" <>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McInnes Muddle> To: <>> Message-ID: <007b01c8b5ff$95712f90$>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > A couple of thoughts on searching for her birth and/or other records...I've > found illegitimate children recorded under their mother's maiden name, their > biological father's surname and on occasion, under the surname of the > mother's subsequent husband.> Linda> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy & John" <>> To: "mull list" <>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:49 AM> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McInnes Muddle> > > > Hi Ida,> >> > The birthdate for Christina 22 Oct 1836 is from the Mull site and it says > > it is from the OPR.> >> > She is listed as 9 years old with the family in the 1841 Census which > > would give a birth year of 1832/33.> >> > On her mother's death certificate dated 1877 she is listed as 34 years old > > which would also give a birth year of 1833.> >> > She married Robert Hart in Australia in May 1850 so she had emigrated > > before that date. She could not write and made her mark instead of > > signing her marriage certificate.> >> > I cannot check the 1851 Census because all census papers were destroyed in > > Australia and were not kept - much to the great disappointment of all the > > Aussie Genies! We are hoping this practice is going to change in the > > future.> >> > I think it is becoming more and more obvious that she was born before her > > parents were married. Maybe Dougald is not even her biological father. > > Maybe the birth was not recorded because she was illegitimate.> >> > I have considered that she may have come out to Australia at a different > > time to the rest of the family. I have checked the shipping records but > > have not been able to find a Christina McInnes close to the correct age > > coming here - even trying all different spellings of the name!> >> > She is definitely part of my family that is listed on the Immigration List > > even though she is not on it.> > I have obituaries from other family members and she is listed in them as a > > sister and also on her mother's death cert.> >> > This Christina is certainly elusive!> > Thank you for all your help so far Ida.> > I really appreciate it.> >> > Kind regards,> > Joy> > Australia> >> >> > Hi Joy and June> >> > Thank you for this.> >> > As Christina is not amongst the family you listed perhaps the 2nd couple> > of Dugald McInnes and Mary McDonald should be explored.> >> > I'm not sure which certificate June has but # 1Dugald McInnes married> > Mary McDonald Mar 24 1835 Iona M115382, 0033> > #2> > Dugald McInnes married Mary McDonald Feb 24 1836 Iona 7426815, 21> >> > When June and I were exploring some of her family she noted her ancestor> > signed with an x and the other was able to sign his name.> > This might be a way of checking your family as well.> >> > The birthdate you have for Christina Oct 22 1836 is this from a> > registration, a death record or a headstone?> >> > Have you checked the 1851 census region for the McInnes family does it> > have the year of emigration listed as well?> >> > Your Robert Hart did you find him in the 1851 census with Christina was> > the years of emigration listed there as well ? If not you may have to> > check all the census until you find one that recorded the year of> > emigration.> >> > Might be that Christina and her parents came over either earlier or> > later than the family you listed below.> >> > Ida> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the SCT-ISLEOFMULL list administrator, send an email to> .> > To post a message to the SCT-ISLEOFMULL mailing list, send an email to .> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of SCT-ISLEOFMULL Digest, Vol 3, Issue 162> **********************************************
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