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From: "Ian Phillips" <>
Subject: RE: [Mull] MacPhail/Black/Curry/McMillan/McKinnon
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:55:27 +0100
In-Reply-To: <44f94a33.2da.26a.10546@clear.net.nz>


Hi Moira,

Greetings from Mull.

A little on Archibald.

From Torosay OPR
Married to Catherine Black when their lawful son Archibald McPhail was born
1843.

Death 1858, Archibald McPhail, 15 years old. Father Malcolm McPhail. Mother
Catherine Black.

Ian

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Subject: [Mull] MacPhail/Black/Curry/McMillan/McKinnon


Hi Ida

Thanks very much for the marriage date for Malcolm MacPhail
& Catherine Black, I didn't have that. Yes, the family at
Moy, Ardura and Oskamull (1861 & 1871) seem to be the same
family and the ones I was looking for.

Additional info is:

Malcolm MacPhail died 21/6/1879 at Oskamull age 89
Catherine Black died between 1845-1851 (last son, Archibald,
born in 1845 - no info on Archibald so far)

Malcolm MacPhail & Catherine Black's children:

DONALD b. 1831 m Jane CURRY (Currie) d/o John Curry + ?.
Donald died 1899 at Tobermory, 68 years. Jane died 1911,
Tobermory, 78 years. Suspect no issue.

HUGH b. c. 1837 died 1858 aged 21. Suspect fathered son,
John, to Catherine MCKINNON, Morven, in 1856. Buried
Pennygown.

JOHN b. 1843 m. Catherine McMILLAN 12/12/1883 at Tyree
(Catherine d/o John McMillan & Christina MacLEAN).
John died 1895 aged 52 at Tiroran
Catherine died 1942 at Bunessan aged 85

John & Catherine's children:
Malcolm b.1885, Tyree
Catherine b.1884, Tyree
Christina b.1888, Kilfinichen
Ewan Archibald (Hugh) b. 1890, Kilfinichen

That's as far as I've got with this family so far.

I'm not sure about your Neil MacPhail - I only have a couple
of Neils but one died pre 1855. What year was your Neil
with Hugh McArthur?

Cheers
Moira

----- Original Message Follows -----
> Hi Moira
>
> Thanks for this posting. I'm catching up with the Mull
> postings after our harvest. As I have one lone Neil
> McPhail living with my Hugh McArthur in KLF parish. I'm
> interested in McPhails as well.
>
> I see in the IGI that Malcolm McPhail marries Catherine
> Black Dec 25 1827 Torosay M115504, 0090
>
> So this Malcolm McPhail 1790-1879 found in Moy in 1841
> Kinloch, 1851 census Ardura House Kinloch, and 1861 at
> Oskamull is probably them ?
>
> In the IGI the children I found from the 1851 census
> llisting which ists only Malcolm as the parent.
>
> in 1841 at Moy I see a couple of Black children living
> with Malcolm and Catherine maybe her siblings???
>
> Moy McPhail Malcolm 45 Farmer
> Moy McPhail Cathrin 25
> Moy McPhail Donald 8 1851 census list him
> as David Moy McPhail Hugh 3
> Moy Mcquarie Anne 24 Female Servant
> Moy Black John 25 Male Servant
> Moy Black Hugh 15 Male Servant
>
> 1851 census
>
> 8 Ardura House MacPhail Malcolm 58 W
> Torosay Catherine Black
> 8 Ardura House MacPhail David 21 s
> Torosay 8 Ardura House MacPhail Hugh
> 13 s Torosay 1838 5012136,26
> 8 Ardura House MacPhail John 8 s
> Kinlochspelvie
> 1843 5012136,26
> 8 Ardura House MacPhail Archibald 6 s
> Kinlochspelvie 1845 5012136,26
> 8 Ardura House MacPhail Marion 13 servant
> Torosay
>
> 8 Ardura House Black unknown 40 servant
> Kilninian probably John transcription unreadable
> 8 Ardura House Black Hugh 31 servant
> Torosay 8 Ardura House MacKinnon Mary
> 25 servant Kilninian
>
> 8 Ardura House Morison John 46 sheepskin
> dealer Morven
>
> Hope it helps, any additionas greatly appreciated.
>
> Ida
>
>
>
>
> Moira MacPhail wrote:
>
> >Hello Margaret
> >
> >I see you are tracking McColls and McPhails - do you have
> a >McPhail/Black in your ancestry at all? I have a
> Malcolm >MacPhail (c1790 - 1879) m. Catherine Black,
> children Donald >(1831-1899), Hugh (1837-1858), John and
> possibly an >Archibald.
> >
> >Malcolm & Catherine had a grandson, John, who seemed to
> live >with the family who I think was the son of Hugh
> (above) & >Catherine McKinnon - grandson John was born
> 1856 at Morven. >In the 1881 census this John is a
> ploughman at Oskamull with >his uncle Donald (above) and
> his wife, Jane Curry. >
> >Not sure who Catherine Black's parents were - she died
> >between the 1841 and 1851.
> >
> >Regards
> >Moira MacPhail
> >
>
>
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