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From: Norma Lewis <>
Subject: [RHEA] Re: RHEA-D Digest V02 #91
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:56:33 -0700
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Thank you, Leon, that was a very nice history! I wonder how the Rheas of
Augusta County fit in here. Are you saying they are another branch of
the family from Ireland?

My Koiner family moved from Lebanon, North Lancaster, in 1773 to
Shippensburg, which became part of Franklin Co. after 1800 ~ in our
history which is so full of errors it is mind boggling ~ it says they
settled on the banks of the Yellow Breeches Creek and I looked for that
creek for a long time before finding it, and I've since learned it has
nothing to do with Yellow Breeches, it was an Indian name that sounded
like Yellow Breeches to the settlers.These settlers were not eager to
keep Indian names as this was a very violent Indian fighting area. My
Koiners bought their land from the Culbertsons of Culbertson Row, and
when they went to Augusta County in 1789 they bought their land there
from the Culbertsons.

I have also recently learned my Keinadt family whose name evolved to
Koiner, Coiner, Coyner, actually borrowed the spelling of that name from
the Irish. I can't find any evidence of Irish Coiners left in this
country, but there are plenty of German Coiners and Coyners ~ this Irish
family were Irish accountants to the English, thus coin counters, or
coiners.

There are Snodgrasses in my Coyner-Rhea family from Shenandoah County,
and some also lived in Augusta.
The Coiners are my maternal line, the Matneys are a paternal line. Isn't
it interesting how they all mingled in these few eastern states?

What got me started on this PA history is the fact that my English
Matneys (Mattingly) married Culbertsons, Buchanans, Lindseys, Coopers,
from this area, and the McCullys (McCullough) and McSpaddens we have
been looking for seem to come from Philadelphia. In the Washington Co.
VA land surveys some of these names are listed as from "New Britain" in
Chester Co., PA ~ Doesn't say that but appears to be a fact.

I also have found several of the same families listed in several states
at the same time ~ in Augusta County although they were on the Holstein
River ~ they were also listed in PA, and about the same time in
Rockbridge or Montgomery County, depending on the dates and when the
counties were formed.

Some of these Lindseys from Falling Creek in Cumberland County went to
KY via SW VA and TN where they lived near and married into the family of
Daniel Boone. The Applegates are also related to this family, also from
MD and PA, and these families wound up in Oregon with my Matneys where
they all intermarried . Walter Jefferson Matney was on the first big
wagon train in 1843 to Oregon along with several Applegates who
reportedly led a cow train of some 900 heads of stock. Jesse, Lindsey
and Charles Applegate founded the Applegate Trail into Southern Oregon ~
This is a short version of a long story, but it shows how these families
moved around the country and wound up together, many who had started out
together. My Gpa Coiner came to Oregon in 1925, and although it is much
newer than eastern history, Oregon and Washington History is very
interesting, and very western.

Its been fun finding all this early history, and I'm still finding new
family associations in all sides of my family!
Norma

PS: Your Mary Kymer who married Samuel Thompson born 1803, could be a
Kyner which is a Koiner. The one son who remained in PA when the rest of
the family went to Augusta County VA used the spelling Kyner and Kiner.
I'm familiar with the German Kimes, have never seen Kymer, which doesn't
mean anything as they used so many creative spellings it is hard to
follow the Germany families.

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