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From: "Mack Rhea" <>
Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] More stuff from my files
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 08:32:08 -0500


Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Johnita.


>>> 08/07/00 18:05 PM >>>
Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I'll be able to get through the
rest of the Baptism of the Dead records from 1870 and 1877 and maybe
something will turn up for your Luna/Looney Rhea/Ray/Rea/Rae. Let's hope
so.

Maybe it's even possible that John had a first wife. This I cannot say
as I don't see anything about it in the Mormon records mentioned above
but if they were half-uncles and aunts maybe they wouldn't have been
mentioned, I just don't know. Also keep in mind that these people being
baptized had to be deceased already. They could not be living.


Johnita


Mack Rhea wrote:
>
> Well, if John isn't Looney (Luna)'s father, then I'm back where I was 10 years ago. I have never seen any real evidence of Luna's father.
Kathleen Pennington t
> Did you see Pat Hall's Aug 3rd message on duplicate death records ? Maybe a similar explanation applies to duplicate marriage records in
different counties.
>
> >>> 08/04/00 10:39PM >>>
> Thanks so much for posting this information. I really appreciate.
>
> Yes, Uriah York married Frances/Fannie Rae, daughter of of John Rae. I
> am not certain that John was ever in North Carolina but some think so and
> he could have been. I'm pretty certain that he was in Grainger Co., TN.,
> as we find the marriage records for 2 of his daughters there. I think he
> was still in Patrick Co., VA., in 1787 and was in Grainger Co., Tn.,
> before 1800.
>
> I also would like to think that there is a Moses in John's background,
> but I don't know for sure. It really looks like the James of Henry Co.,
> VA., is the most likely candidate for his father. There isa Moses in
> Franklin Co., VA., who was born about 1727 or so and died about 1802.
> This Moses had a son, John, also, but I just don't know about this one.
> This Moses did not seem to have the close connection to the Bollings and
> Coopers as did the James in Henry Co., VA.
>
> For John's daughter Elizabeth I have a couple of sources for marriage
> records and not sure which is correct. I got both of them from this
> list:
>
> In an e-mail about Grainger Co., TN., marriages, I found this: Elizabeth
> Rhea to Richard Cristell on 2 Feb 1797. No bondsman.
>
> Meigs Co., TN., Marriages, Rhea. RHEA, Elisabeth marr. CRISTOL,
> Ritchard on 02-FEB-1797.
>
> For John's daughter, Fareby (or Pherby), I got this from the list with
> her brother, Moses, as bondsman:
>
> In an e-mail from (Charla A. Marchione) about Grainger
> Co., TN., marriages, I found this: Ezekiel Hudson and Fareby Rhea,
> 3/3/1801, Moses Rhea, bondsman.
>
> These two ladies are mentioned in the Mormon Baptist of the Dead record
> in 1870 as well as Ezekiel Hudson. I really think that Dicey Ray Perkins
> probably had a pretty good idea of who her aunts and uncles were and this
> record is probably fairly accurate. Now I could not say if there are
> some children of John Rae that she did not mention or not. I have not
> finished reading the record either so maybe something else will show up.
>
> It is pretty certain that Isham was not John's son, I cannot say about
> the others, i.e., Looney, Robert P., Joseph M., and Lewis, but I think it
> doubtful. John most likely did have children named, Mary, Nancy, Moses,
> William, and Frances, plus others. Lewis is mentioned in the Baptism of
> the Dead (Film 170542, Endowments for the Dead - St. George Temple) as
> the granduncle of an Andrew Houston Perkins. If I can get this Andrew
> Houston Perkins placed maybe I could figure out where Lewis fits. Isham
> (Isom) is also mentioned in the Baptism of the Dead ( Mormom Records at
> ndowment House, Salt Lake City, Baptisms for Dead, Film 183,383, Bk B,
> pg 97, 3 Aug 1870) as a cousin of William Gantt Perkins, husband of Dicey
> Ray, daughter of Aaron Ray, son of John Rae, the Baptist minister. Dicey
> Ray/Rea/Rae/Rhea and her husband, William Gantt Perkins, were Mormons and
> went on the Mormon Trek to Utah. They were also with the Mormons when
> they wintered in Illinois.
>
> I am a little concerned that perhaps the writings of Worth S. Ray which
> he himself stated was speculation have been perpetuated as truth and/or
> proof and used that way without further research. We really need to find
> more original records before we can put this down as fact.
>
> I would love to get this family figured out.
>
> Thanks again for this posting. I surely enjoy seeing more info about
> this family.
>
> Johnita
>
> Mack Rhea wrote:
> >
> > Some of you already have this, but some others may not. This was sent to be by Kathleen Pennington. I don't know the publication or publication
> date. I have ne
> >
> > This is an excerpt from a larger article:
> >
> > THE VALLEY OF URIAH
> > By David Moore
> >
> > "Nestled in the mountains of the Cumberland Plateau of Middle Tennessee is the valley of Uriah - Uriah York and his children, his
grandchildren
> and his great g
> > ar the laughter of an offtimes happy people. Here in their great-grandfather's valley the ten sons of Oliver were born and grew to
> manhood.
> > The Yorks and Crains have gone from Uriah's valley - except for those who lie in the little cemetery. But Crains and Yorks in far away places
> will always be dr
> > Uriah was born in North Carolina, probably Randolph County, May 17, 1784. Sometime before 1790 Uriah's father, Seymour, decided to move his
> family across the B
> > Reverend John Ray, former pastor of Sandy Creek Baptist Church where the Yorks had worshiped in North Carolina, moved his family west about
> the same time Seymo
> > The new state of Tennessee was rapidly being settled nd by 1805 the United States Government had purchased from the Indians a section of
> Middle Tennessee and
> > We are not sure just when Uriah and Frences, nicknamed Fanny, moved from Grainger to Warren, but we do know the first grant made to him was
> dated 1813, and sin
> > His father-in-law appears in the early records of Warren County. So he, Uriah and Fanny along with other members of the family may have moved
> together. He obt
> > The 1790 Heads of Families for North Carolina reveals four John Rays and it has been difficult to establish which was the John we are
> interested in. Worth Ray
> > liam born1772; Mary, born1769; Joseph M., born 1775; Robert P., born 1777; Nancy, born 1782; Looney and Lewis; Frances, married Uriah York.
> > Court minutes of Warren County reveal Moses was appointed administrator for John's estate and one of the witnesses to the
appointment was Uriah
> York. John die
> >
> > JOHN RAE
> > died Feb 16, 1813 age 74
> > for 40 years a Baptist minister
> >
> > NANCY COOPER
> > dau of J. M. Ray
> > died June 1, 1843, aged 61 years
> >
> > MARY BRAZEAL
> > dau of J. M. Ray
> > died 1811 aged 42 years
> >
> > ISHAM RAE
> > died in the 21st year of his life
> >
> > Elijah Drake bought the Ray land and since that time it has been referred to as the Drake place. Mr. and Mrs. Joe Lee Roscoe, present
> owners of the property,
> >
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