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From: Nancy J Gard <>
Subject: [RHEA-L] Re: RHEA-D Digest V00 #107
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:22:34 -0500
References: <200007261103.e6QB36r08393@lists5.rootsweb.com>


Just jumping in to confuse matters: I have the following (from the book by Joseph C. Rhea, Jr...RAY-RHEA: A Family History and
Genealogy for thr RHEA and related Families, 1969)

John Rhea, 1760 - . Married in in ca. 1785 to Mary Deloach, ca. 1765 - . Children:

Pahpry (Popia) RHEA, 1790 - . Married in 1813 to Elias Breazeale (Brezal), ca 1785-1855.
Children: Nancy and Mary Katherine (Mar. 15, 1815 -1899).

Mary Rhea. Married John Buckingham. Child: Mary Rhea (married Gen. John Greer).


Could Pahpry and Pherby be the same person???


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> RHEA-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 107
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> #1 Re: [RHEA-L] Rhea list ["Johnita P. Malone" <]
> #2 [RHEA-L] Updated RHEA WELCOME LETT []
> #3 Re: [RHEA-L] Spelling of Rhea, Ray [Charla Marchione <]
> #4 Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennes ["Anthony Brazell" <]
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> Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Rhea list
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:06:16 -0700
> From: "Johnita P. Malone" <>
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> I, too, have found my Rheas (which was the most recent spelling used by
> my family) also spelled as Ray, Rea, Rae, and Wray. I think that you are
> correct that all of these variants need to be checked. Perhaps it was
> not the intent of the family to spell the names in all these different
> ways but record keepers are probably the blame for it. Although, I think
> there were probably different families who intended their names to be
> spelled Ray, for example, but it was sometimes spelled other ways.
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> I for one will also be looking for all the spellings in my research.
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> Good luck in your further research.
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> Johnita
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> wrote:
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> > Pat,
> > I have been subscribed to the Rhea list for a long time. But now I am going
> > to unsubscribe. My oldest known ancestor was Lindsey Rhea from Scott Co. Va
> > who moved to Pike Co. KY after 1825. His family were listed as 'Rhea', on
> > the 1850 Pike Co. Census. But for some reason, the spelling was changed to
> > RAY after that time. I have saw many discusons on this list that says that
> > these two spellings are from different lines, but I have documentented proof,
> > (wills, land deeds, marriage records, and census) that at least with my line
> > and all of their many ancestors, that the RHEA and RAY families are from the
> > same line.
> >
> > I belive that Lindsey's father was John Watson? Rhea, Sr. and that he was a
> > brother or son of Joseph Rhea in Scott Co., VA. They probably were in
> > Franklin Co. at one time, also in NC and TN.
> >
> > I thought of joining one of the Ray lists, but since I am looking for RHEAS
> > from 1700 on back, I don't think that would help me. I really hate to see
> > all of the problems that people have with the spelling of a name. I am
> > convinced that they are all from the same root. Whether it was from
> > illiteratecy, second party mistakes, or for intentional reasons, there was
> > indeed a spelling change. I have also seen family members spelled RAE, WRAY,
> > and RHAY. I hope that someday we can all get together on this family and
> > forget the little distractions, like how a name is spelled.
> >
> > Please send me the 'unsubscribe' instructions, since I have long ago, lost
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> Subject: [RHEA-L] Updated RHEA WELCOME LETTER
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> Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Spelling of Rhea, Ray, etc.
> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:14:40 -0400
> From: Charla Marchione <>
> To:
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> Until about 1880 my family spelled the name as Rhea, thereafter my particular branch began spelling the family name Ray. One
> story handed down is that an ancestor researched the family and found that the original spelling was actually Ray.
>
> Another family story is that he didn't like sharing the Rhea name with a South American bird which resembles an ostrich.
>
> Apparently whatever the spelling, we are all family.
>
> Charla
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> Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:47:37 GMT
> From: "Anthony Brazell" <>
> To:
>
> Hello,
>
> I year that I have in 1792 in Logan County, KY. I got this from a researcher
> that lives in Blount Co, AL. She found his obit. She forgot the source. It
> that he was born in KY and then moved to Tn when he was a young boy. He is
> related to the Barnes and DeLoach family that lived in Sumner COunty, Tn
>
> I will give more info later today...
> TONY
>
> >From: "Johnita P. Malone" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:58:16 -0700
> >
> >Do you have an approximate birth year for your Elias Brazell? This might
> >help a little. Perhaps he married Pherby Ray/Rea/Rhea after his first
> >wife died. Pherby had married Ezekiel Hudson and perhaps that is why she
> >is referred in the newspaper as Pherly Hudson, wife of Elias Brazel. I
> >would sure like to figure this out. The Mormon record refers to her as
> >Pherby (Ray) Hudson and that she was the daughter of John Rea and aunt of
> >Dicy Ray Perkins. Dicey was the daughter of Aaron Ray who was a son of
> >John Ray.
> >
> >I am most anxious to figure out this family as I have worked on it for a
> >long time. I am hoping we have good luck in working this out.
> >
> >We have bought some land on Tim Fords Lake in Winchester, TN., which is
> >about 45 minutes from Huntsville, AL. It'll be about 2-3 years before we
> >get to move there and retire but I'm hoping to do more research when I
> >get there also. We live in Ohio now.
> >
> >Please keep in touch. You're the closest I have found to date as to
> >making a connection for this family. I am reviewing some more of the
> >Mormon record now and hoping to find some more information about John's
> >family.
> >
> >Johnita
> >
> >
> >Anthony Brazell wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I find this very confusing. All the records that I have on Elias and
> >Pherby
> > > shows that her name is Ray(Rhea). The application that ELias filled out
> >for
> > > a pension while he was in the War of 1812. It shows that he was married
> >to
> > > Pherby Ray, in Warren County, TN. Poss the years of 1810-1814.
> > >
> > > I am planning to go to the library in Nashville to research the
> >Brasseale
> > > family. I live near Huntsville, Al and the library is ok to do research,
> >but
> > > I need more research materials.
> > >
> > > I will go ovr my notebooks, and will get back to you..
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > >From: "Johnita P. Malone" <>
> > > >Reply-To:
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> > > >Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:09:57 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I've been looking for you or someone like you who is interested in the
> > > >Rheas and
> > > >Brazells. John Rhea/Rea/Rae/Ray did have a daughter who married a
> >Brazell
> > > >but
> > > >her name was Mary. I thought that Elias Brazell married Pherby and
> >that
> > > >Pherby's
> > > >surname was Hudson. Possibly Pherby was a first cousin of Elias
> >Brazell
> > > >and
> > > >could have been a daughter of Pherby Rhea and Ezekiel Hudson. Pherby
> >Rhea
> > > >who
> > > >married Ezekiel Hudson was also a daughter of John Ray/Rhea/Rea/Rae.
> >There
> > > >is
> > > >another possibility here also. Perhaps since Mary Ray Brazeal died in
> >1811
> > > >that
> > > >her husband (and I don't know his given name) could have married Mary's
> > > >sister
> > > >Pherby (if Pherby had been widowed by that time) as her second husband
> >and
> > > >their
> > > >second marriage. I do have a marriage record for Pherby to Ezekiel
> >Hudson
> > > >from
> > > >Grainger Co., TN.
> > > >
> > > >"In an e-mail from (Charla A. Marchione) about
> >Grainger
> > > >Co.,
> > > >TN., marriages, I found this: Ezekiel Hudson and Fareby Rhea,
> >3/3/1801,
> > > >Moses
> > > >Rhea, bondsman."
> > > >
> > > >Mary Brazeal who was the daughter of John Rae is buried in Warren Co.,
> >TN.,
> > > >according to Worth Ray's book, Tennessee Cousins.
> > > >
> > > >"The markers read: John Rae died February 16, 1813, aged 74 years.
> > > >Baptist
> > > >Preacher. Nancy Cooper (Prob. wife of James Cooper) daughter of J. M.
> >Rae
> > > >(Ray)
> > > >died Jun 1, 1843, aged 61 years. Mary Brazeal, daughter of J. M. Rae,
> >died
> > > >1811,
> > > >aged 42 years. Isham Rae died in the 21st year of his age. No dates."
> > > >(My
> > > >Note: Worth was in error about Nancy Rae Cooper. Her husband was
> >George
> > > >Washington Cooper. Isham seems to have been a grandson or something
> >but
> > > >not a
> > > >son.)
> > > >
> > > >Dicy (Ray) Perkins, wife of William G. Perkins and daughter of Aaron
> >Ray
> > > >and
> > > >granddaughter of John M. Rae, gives the names of her aunts in the
> >Mormon
> > > >Baptist
> > > >of the Dead records and lists:
> > > >
> > > >Mormom Records at Endowment House, Salt Lake City
> > > >Baptisms for Dead
> > > >Film 183,383, Bk B, pg 97, 3 Aug 1870
> > > >
> > > >Relative Name Place Born Date Entered Informant/Member
> >Relationship
> > > > (of
> >member)
> > > >Hannah Ray VA 3 Aug 1870 Dicy Ray Perkins Niece
> > > >Mary Ray Brezzal VA 3 Aug 1870 Dicy Ray Perkins Niece
> > > >Salley Ray Beasley same same same
> > > >Fanny Ray York same same same
> > > >Lucy Ray Perkins same same same
> > > >Betsy Ray Christial same same same
> > > >Salley Carol Harris same same same
> > > >Lydda Howell Briant same same same
> > > >Lottie Howell Bryant same same same
> > > >Isom Ray VA 3 Aug 1870 Wm Gant Perkins Cousin
> > > >John Ray VA same same nephew
> > > >Wm Ray same same same
> > > >James Ray same same same
> > > >Sherrid Harris same same same
> > > >John Howell same same same
> > > >Philison Howell same same
> >same
> > > >Samuel Howell same same same
> > > >Berry Howell same same same
> > > >James Howell same same same
> > > >(Note: not sure if Wm. G. Perkins is a nephew of the above or a
> > > >nephew-in-law.)
> > > >
> > > >Mormom Records at Endowment House, Salt Lake City
> > > >Baptisms for Dead
> > > >Film 183,383, Bk B, pg 76, 27 July 1870
> > > >
> > > >Relative Name Place Born Date Entered Informant/Member
> >Relationship
> > > > (of
> >member)
> > > >Nancy Howell Ray VA 27 Jul 1870 Dicy Ray Perkins daughter
> > > >Polley Bolon Ray same same
> >grandaughter
> > > >Patta Berry Howell same same
> >grandaughter
> > > >Ritter Hudson Ray VA same same niece
> > > >Ruth Lockhart same same friend
> > > >Nancy Ray Cooper same same niece
> > > >Moses Ray same Wm G. Perkins
> >nephew-in-law
> > > >Washington Cooper same same nephew
> >in-law
> > > >Ezekiel Hudson same same same
> > > >Benjamin Lockhart same same same
> > > >
> > > >Email me at and let's discuss this John Rae and
> >his
> > > >children. I would love to work out some more details on this family.
> > > >
> > > >Johnita
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Anthony Brazell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I find this very interesting. I descend from Elias Brazeal and
> >Pherby.
> > > > > Elias' wife is Pherby Rhea. They were married in Warren County,
> >about
> > > > > 1810-14. I think that her father was John Rhea, not confirmed on
> >that.
> > > >Elias
> > > > > and family moved to Blount County, Al before 1830.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Mack Rhea" <>
> > > > > >Reply-To:
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Subject: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:34:34 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On March 30, 1992 I received this information from Kathleen
> >Pennington,
> > > >a
> > > > > >descendant of Moses Rhea (brother of Luna Rhea, Sr.). Some of you
> >may
> > > >find
> > > > > >the information interesting:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"The article enclosed was in the 1845 Gazette Newspaper (a Warren
> >Co.
> > > > > >paper). Our Chancery Court records only wnt back to 1847."...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Chancery Court at McMinnville TN. Uriah York adm of the estate of
> > > >Nancy
> > > > > >Cooper deceased and adm .... of George W. Cooper deceased and filed
> >in
> > > >his
> > > > > >own rights and of Fanny York his, wife, complaint against: James
> >Rhea
> > > >Sr.,
> > > > > >James Rhea Jr., Dyer Rhea, Jane Rhea, Elizabeth Rhea, Mary Rhae,
> > > >____Rhea,
> > > > > >John Rhea, Alfred Rhea, Lewis Rhea, William Perkins and wife,
> >Dicey, D.
> > > > > >Shipley and wife Martha, J. Pryor and wife Viney, Hiram Rhea and
> >Mary,
> > > >his
> > > > > >wife, Elias Brazel and his wife Pherly Hudson, Elizabeth Christian,
> >and
> > > > > >John Cooper Jr., and other defendants. All named are not citizens
> >of
> > > > > >Tennessee. Commanding the above named defendants to personally
> >appear
> > > >at
> > > > > >the next term of our Chancery Court to be holden at the court
> >house in
> > > >the
> > > > > >town of McMinnville in the state aforesaid then and there to plead
> > > >answer
> > > > > >to said bill of the same will be taken for a confessed and set for
> > > >hearing
> > > > > >exparte.
> > > > > > J. E. Morford C+M
> > > > > >This is an amendd and supplemented bill bringing new parties before
> >the
> > > > > >court and praying as in the original bill that everything touching
> >that
> > > > > >estate of Nanacy and George W. Cooper deceased may be adjudicated
> >upon
> > > >and
> > > > > >settled by the court.
> > > > > > Burton Sal
> > > > > >Aug 29, 1845"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mack Robert Rhea
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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