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From: "Johnita P. Malone" <>
Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 05:58:07 -0700
References: <20000726054737.62275.qmail@hotmail.com>


>From his age, i.e., born in 1792, I would say that he was too young to
have married any of John Ray/Rae/Rea/Rhea's daughters. It would be more
likely that he would have been a grandson and a son of Mary Ray/Rea and
her Brazell husband. John would have been born about 1739 according to
his tombstone and Mary (Polly) would have been born about 1743 according
to her tombstone. Mary would have been 49 in 1792 and although she could
maybe have had children then, I would doubt it. I even wonder if she
could be the mother of my Lucy who married Levi Perkins because was born
1787 had it not been for the Mormon record showing Lucy as an aunt of
Dicey Ray.

I would more likely think that your Elias was married to Pherby Hudson,
daughter of Ezekiel Hudson and Fareby Rhea. They married in 1801. Do
you have an approximate date of birth for your Pherby who married Elias?

There's no doubt that your Elias was a descendant of this John Rae. Now
just to figure out how.

Johnita


Anthony Brazell wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I year that I have in 1792 in Logan County, KY. I got this from a researcher
> that lives in Blount Co, AL. She found his obit. She forgot the source. It
> that he was born in KY and then moved to Tn when he was a young boy. He is
> related to the Barnes and DeLoach family that lived in Sumner COunty, Tn
>
> I will give more info later today...
> TONY
>
> >From: "Johnita P. Malone" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:58:16 -0700
> >
> >Do you have an approximate birth year for your Elias Brazell? This might
> >help a little. Perhaps he married Pherby Ray/Rea/Rhea after his first
> >wife died. Pherby had married Ezekiel Hudson and perhaps that is why she
> >is referred in the newspaper as Pherly Hudson, wife of Elias Brazel. I
> >would sure like to figure this out. The Mormon record refers to her as
> >Pherby (Ray) Hudson and that she was the daughter of John Rea and aunt of
> >Dicy Ray Perkins. Dicey was the daughter of Aaron Ray who was a son of
> >John Ray.
> >
> >I am most anxious to figure out this family as I have worked on it for a
> >long time. I am hoping we have good luck in working this out.
> >
> >We have bought some land on Tim Fords Lake in Winchester, TN., which is
> >about 45 minutes from Huntsville, AL. It'll be about 2-3 years before we
> >get to move there and retire but I'm hoping to do more research when I
> >get there also. We live in Ohio now.
> >
> >Please keep in touch. You're the closest I have found to date as to
> >making a connection for this family. I am reviewing some more of the
> >Mormon record now and hoping to find some more information about John's
> >family.
> >
> >Johnita
> >
> >
> >Anthony Brazell wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I find this very confusing. All the records that I have on Elias and
> >Pherby
> > > shows that her name is Ray(Rhea). The application that ELias filled out
> >for
> > > a pension while he was in the War of 1812. It shows that he was married
> >to
> > > Pherby Ray, in Warren County, TN. Poss the years of 1810-1814.
> > >
> > > I am planning to go to the library in Nashville to research the
> >Brasseale
> > > family. I live near Huntsville, Al and the library is ok to do research,
> >but
> > > I need more research materials.
> > >
> > > I will go ovr my notebooks, and will get back to you..
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > >From: "Johnita P. Malone" <>
> > > >Reply-To:
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: Re: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> > > >Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:09:57 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I've been looking for you or someone like you who is interested in the
> > > >Rheas and
> > > >Brazells. John Rhea/Rea/Rae/Ray did have a daughter who married a
> >Brazell
> > > >but
> > > >her name was Mary. I thought that Elias Brazell married Pherby and
> >that
> > > >Pherby's
> > > >surname was Hudson. Possibly Pherby was a first cousin of Elias
> >Brazell
> > > >and
> > > >could have been a daughter of Pherby Rhea and Ezekiel Hudson. Pherby
> >Rhea
> > > >who
> > > >married Ezekiel Hudson was also a daughter of John Ray/Rhea/Rea/Rae.
> >There
> > > >is
> > > >another possibility here also. Perhaps since Mary Ray Brazeal died in
> >1811
> > > >that
> > > >her husband (and I don't know his given name) could have married Mary's
> > > >sister
> > > >Pherby (if Pherby had been widowed by that time) as her second husband
> >and
> > > >their
> > > >second marriage. I do have a marriage record for Pherby to Ezekiel
> >Hudson
> > > >from
> > > >Grainger Co., TN.
> > > >
> > > >"In an e-mail from (Charla A. Marchione) about
> >Grainger
> > > >Co.,
> > > >TN., marriages, I found this: Ezekiel Hudson and Fareby Rhea,
> >3/3/1801,
> > > >Moses
> > > >Rhea, bondsman."
> > > >
> > > >Mary Brazeal who was the daughter of John Rae is buried in Warren Co.,
> >TN.,
> > > >according to Worth Ray's book, Tennessee Cousins.
> > > >
> > > >"The markers read: John Rae died February 16, 1813, aged 74 years.
> > > >Baptist
> > > >Preacher. Nancy Cooper (Prob. wife of James Cooper) daughter of J. M.
> >Rae
> > > >(Ray)
> > > >died Jun 1, 1843, aged 61 years. Mary Brazeal, daughter of J. M. Rae,
> >died
> > > >1811,
> > > >aged 42 years. Isham Rae died in the 21st year of his age. No dates."
> > > >(My
> > > >Note: Worth was in error about Nancy Rae Cooper. Her husband was
> >George
> > > >Washington Cooper. Isham seems to have been a grandson or something
> >but
> > > >not a
> > > >son.)
> > > >
> > > >Dicy (Ray) Perkins, wife of William G. Perkins and daughter of Aaron
> >Ray
> > > >and
> > > >granddaughter of John M. Rae, gives the names of her aunts in the
> >Mormon
> > > >Baptist
> > > >of the Dead records and lists:
> > > >
> > > >Mormom Records at Endowment House, Salt Lake City
> > > >Baptisms for Dead
> > > >Film 183,383, Bk B, pg 97, 3 Aug 1870
> > > >
> > > >Relative Name Place Born Date Entered Informant/Member
> >Relationship
> > > > (of
> >member)
> > > >Hannah Ray VA 3 Aug 1870 Dicy Ray Perkins Niece
> > > >Mary Ray Brezzal VA 3 Aug 1870 Dicy Ray Perkins Niece
> > > >Salley Ray Beasley same same same
> > > >Fanny Ray York same same same
> > > >Lucy Ray Perkins same same same
> > > >Betsy Ray Christial same same same
> > > >Salley Carol Harris same same same
> > > >Lydda Howell Briant same same same
> > > >Lottie Howell Bryant same same same
> > > >Isom Ray VA 3 Aug 1870 Wm Gant Perkins Cousin
> > > >John Ray VA same same nephew
> > > >Wm Ray same same same
> > > >James Ray same same same
> > > >Sherrid Harris same same same
> > > >John Howell same same same
> > > >Philison Howell same same
> >same
> > > >Samuel Howell same same same
> > > >Berry Howell same same same
> > > >James Howell same same same
> > > >(Note: not sure if Wm. G. Perkins is a nephew of the above or a
> > > >nephew-in-law.)
> > > >
> > > >Mormom Records at Endowment House, Salt Lake City
> > > >Baptisms for Dead
> > > >Film 183,383, Bk B, pg 76, 27 July 1870
> > > >
> > > >Relative Name Place Born Date Entered Informant/Member
> >Relationship
> > > > (of
> >member)
> > > >Nancy Howell Ray VA 27 Jul 1870 Dicy Ray Perkins daughter
> > > >Polley Bolon Ray same same
> >grandaughter
> > > >Patta Berry Howell same same
> >grandaughter
> > > >Ritter Hudson Ray VA same same niece
> > > >Ruth Lockhart same same friend
> > > >Nancy Ray Cooper same same niece
> > > >Moses Ray same Wm G. Perkins
> >nephew-in-law
> > > >Washington Cooper same same nephew
> >in-law
> > > >Ezekiel Hudson same same same
> > > >Benjamin Lockhart same same same
> > > >
> > > >Email me at and let's discuss this John Rae and
> >his
> > > >children. I would love to work out some more details on this family.
> > > >
> > > >Johnita
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Anthony Brazell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I find this very interesting. I descend from Elias Brazeal and
> >Pherby.
> > > > > Elias' wife is Pherby Rhea. They were married in Warren County,
> >about
> > > > > 1810-14. I think that her father was John Rhea, not confirmed on
> >that.
> > > >Elias
> > > > > and family moved to Blount County, Al before 1830.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Mack Rhea" <>
> > > > > >Reply-To:
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Subject: [RHEA-L] Warren County, Tennessee Court Record
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:34:34 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On March 30, 1992 I received this information from Kathleen
> >Pennington,
> > > >a
> > > > > >descendant of Moses Rhea (brother of Luna Rhea, Sr.). Some of you
> >may
> > > >find
> > > > > >the information interesting:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"The article enclosed was in the 1845 Gazette Newspaper (a Warren
> >Co.
> > > > > >paper). Our Chancery Court records only wnt back to 1847."...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Chancery Court at McMinnville TN. Uriah York adm of the estate of
> > > >Nancy
> > > > > >Cooper deceased and adm .... of George W. Cooper deceased and filed
> >in
> > > >his
> > > > > >own rights and of Fanny York his, wife, complaint against: James
> >Rhea
> > > >Sr.,
> > > > > >James Rhea Jr., Dyer Rhea, Jane Rhea, Elizabeth Rhea, Mary Rhae,
> > > >____Rhea,
> > > > > >John Rhea, Alfred Rhea, Lewis Rhea, William Perkins and wife,
> >Dicey, D.
> > > > > >Shipley and wife Martha, J. Pryor and wife Viney, Hiram Rhea and
> >Mary,
> > > >his
> > > > > >wife, Elias Brazel and his wife Pherly Hudson, Elizabeth Christian,
> >and
> > > > > >John Cooper Jr., and other defendants. All named are not citizens
> >of
> > > > > >Tennessee. Commanding the above named defendants to personally
> >appear
> > > >at
> > > > > >the next term of our Chancery Court to be holden at the court
> >house in
> > > >the
> > > > > >town of McMinnville in the state aforesaid then and there to plead
> > > >answer
> > > > > >to said bill of the same will be taken for a confessed and set for
> > > >hearing
> > > > > >exparte.
> > > > > > J. E. Morford C+M
> > > > > >This is an amendd and supplemented bill bringing new parties before
> >the
> > > > > >court and praying as in the original bill that everything touching
> >that
> > > > > >estate of Nanacy and George W. Cooper deceased may be adjudicated
> >upon
> > > >and
> > > > > >settled by the court.
> > > > > > Burton Sal
> > > > > >Aug 29, 1845"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mack Robert Rhea
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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