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From: "Jerry Vernon" <>
Subject: Re: [RAINWATER] Rainwater Family line - the Indian question rears its ugly head...
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:50:12 -0800
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My 3rd great grandmother was Sarah RAINWATER b. abt 1805-06. She m. Warren
Monroe POSEY. I have a picture of her and she has, I believe, Indian
features. All my life I have heard stories of Cherokee or Creek Indians in
our family. My mom almost 80 now, heard them from her father. Like you, I
have no stake in it one way or the other and try to keep an open mind. I
choose to remain neutral, I enjoy the debates as I think that is healthy,
and in light of no positive proof one way or the other I will respect both
points of view and sit here waiting until I see something concrete. (I may
be sitting a long time?) I think it is great that we do genealogy to
understand what our ancestors endured and respect their sacrifices no matter
what background they came from. I would love to see your pictures Bliss. I
will send you mine if you would like to see it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bliss Bignall" <>
Sent: 02 December, 2001 14:24
Subject: [RAINWATER] Rainwater Family line - the Indian question rears its
> I've been on this list before mentioning an indian connection. My
> mother-in-law's maiden name is Rainwater, and they have always firmly
> maintained that they were either Cherokee or Choktaw. My wife's
> grandmother's deathbed confession was that she was Chocktaw, not Cherokee
> she had always claimed. Clifford Rainwater, who used to post here fairly
> regularly, is a cousin of my mother-in-law (They share Robert Allen
> Rainwater 1861-1953), and claims not only indian heritage, but that his
> father spoke the language. Both parts of the family, having never met,
> the same stories about Robert running moonshine along the Pawnee Strip, in
> Oklahoma, and being an indian who chose to live off the reservation. I
> a recent picture of a man I believe is Clifford's father, and he has very
> strong indian features and coloring. I have pictures of Robert Allen
> Rainwater, and his son (my wife's grandfather), and they have very indian
> features, and appear to have indian coloring. Before anyone brings up
> photos changing coloring over the years, I also have old pictures of my
> of the family, and they don't look at all like indians.
> Now, I have no personal stake in this, I just married into it and started
> doing my genealogy, as counseled. But it seems to me that there are two
> camps in the Rainwater clan One claims there may have been "Granny
> Cherokee" back in 17something-or-other, and that's it. The other faction
> claims a definite indian connection.
> My question to the group is....Is it possible that there is a
> Could the Rainwater line have more than one indian "in the woodpile"? I
> personally think the answer is yes.
> BTW: Copies of the pictures I have are available to anyone who asks.
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