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From: "O. Eugene Queen" <>
Subject: Re: [QUEEN-SCOTLAND] Geography of emails
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:18:40 -0400
References: <20070705222538.30202@ms.che.vodafone>


Greetings all,

I am the administrator of the "QUEEN-SCOTLAND" mailing list. I started this
list in 2004 in the hopes of attracting the interest of Queens in Scotland
and elsewhere in Europe. The hope was that this list would grow (by
participation of Queens in/of Scotland) and that, as well as benefitting
European Queens, perhaps a connection would be made between Queens in
Scotland and Queens in America. Americans were discouraged from posting on
this list since we have our own "QUEEN" mailing list in America that has
been very active since about 1998.

A visit to the QUEEN-SCOTLAND archives will reveal the contents of my early
posts to the list in an effort to emphasize the Scottish nature of this
list. It was truly to be a "Scottish" list. Listed below are the posts for
the entire year of 2004.
dates
a.. Early Queen Marriages by O Eugene Queen (Sat, 16 Oct 2004
23:15:04 -0400)
b.. Queen, John (b. ca 1826) by O Eugene Queen (Sat, 16 Oct 2004
23:06:59 -0400)
c.. Queen, Joseph by O Eugene Queen (Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:18:45 -0400)
d.. James, Dumbarton, 1881 by O Eugene Queen (Sat, 16 Oct 2004
00:44:47 -0400)
e.. Re: [QUEEN-SCOTLAND] A.C.S. Queen by O Eugene Queen (Thu, 14 Oct
2004 00:56:14 -0400)
f.. A.C.S. Queen by Ron Stanfield (Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:36:47 +1000)
g.. Test 2 by O Eugene Queen (Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:20:23 -0400)
h.. Test by O Eugene Queen (Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:46:28 -0400)
Currently there are only 6 subscribers to the list including myself. Three
of these subscribers are American. One or two of the remaining three may be
American.
Sadly, this is where we stand. There have been very few posts to
QUEEN-SCOTLAND by anyone, even though the list was publicized by rootsweb.
I'm searching for straws as to how to get Queens in Scotland and Europe to
get involved in family research and use this list in the manner in which it
was intended - for them.

ALL messages that have been posted to QUEEN-SCOTLAND can be viewed by
visiting the list archives at:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=queen-scotland

It appears that I am the only American who has posted to this list - and the
information I have posted is, I believe, Scottish only, data.

We do know that there is ONE person of Scottish origin on this list and that
person is very much appreciated. Hopefully, we will see 2, then 3, then
more. But, I've thus far been unable to pull it off.

................................................................

Now, as to posts concerning "Old William" and American Queens, my guess is
that Sharon is also subscribed to . If true, this would
explain all the messages concerning American Queens, since the list is
primarily used by Americans - but is certainly open to all anywhere in the
world.

I refer to this statement of Sharon: "I have been reading all emails
comming through with relish looking forward to exchanging info.
Unfortunately I have discovered that this email list is really QUEEN
AMERICA." Actually, it is merely "QUEEN". (The few and only e-mails to
QUEEN-SCOTLAND in the past two years have been posted by 2 or 3 people
only.)

If I am correct, then you may end all messages coming to you from "Queen"
list by following these instructions: To unsubscribe from the list, please
send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe'
without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .

This will not affect your subscription to "QUEEN-SCOTLAND" list.

..............................................................
If I am incorrect, and if American Queens are contacting you personally,
then simply advise the writers that you do not wish to be contacted.

.....................................................................
You are correct in that not every Queen in America descends from William
Queen of 1716 (aka "old William). Over a hundred researchers in America who
are members of "QUEEN" list have been working for years thru data sharing
and YDNA testing to "break-up" the American Queens into various sub-groups.
Indications thus far are that some of the earlier arrivals came from
England, Ireland and Scotland. But, they are only indications. No proof
yet.
.................................................................
I will privately respond to your question concerning DNA testing and how it
helps "sort out" Queens and others.
...............................................................
Finally, I understand your frustration. It was good for you to vent and let
it out. (I'm known on Queen-L for venting my frustrations at times.)
Relax, breathe in and out a bit, then let's get on with the hunt for our
ancestors wherever they may be/have been.

Gene





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----- Original Message -----
From: "ITS SALES" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: [QUEEN-SCOTLAND] Geography of emails


>
> Hi to everyone on list,
>
> I am new to list so please forgive me if I dont understand the set up.
>
> I joined the QUEEN-SCOTLAND list a few days ago, fortunately for me a
> member
> has been of invaluable help to me and were able to exchange info even
> though
> we are not connected.
>
> I have been reading all emails comming through with relish looking forward
> to exchanging info. Unfortunately I have discovered that this email list
> is
> really QUEEN AMERICA why dont you have your own list.
> No Ofence but nothing is connected with Scotland or Ireland (if you come
> to
> mention it.) I applaud Americans/Canadians for finding out where they
> come
> from after all I am Scottish and found out my past was Irish. So good
> luck
> to you. I understand that America has no real history as native americans
> were the inhabitents and due to the "British Empire" alot of your loved
> ones
> ended up there even if they did not want to to.
>
> But this does not apply to queen-scotland no matter which way you look at
> it.
>
> Can someone please explain to me the need for DNA testing ( I am very new
> too this so very igorant), every Queen in America cannot possibly come
> from
> the same relative. After all there is no sufficient records in Ireland to
> Look at. Yes lets look at Griffith Valuation, lets look at surnames then
> christian names they are all the same. Absolutely impossible to find
> relatives unless you have birth records, dates and townlands.
>
> I am terribly sorry if I have offended anyone. Not my intention. But if
> you join a particular list and expect a shared information (ie continent
> would help) you cannot help be frustrated.
>
> I am a Queen blood relative I came from James Queen born circa 1790
> Ireland.
>
> Sharon
>
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> with the word 'unsubscribe' without
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