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From: Fr John L <>
Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:18:56 -0400
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"Mom" Smith is correct in saying that it is impossible for a woman to give birth twice within six months unless the second one is premature. On the other hand, a woman can become pregnant as soon as she has ovulated, which can occur 4 to 6 weeks after giving birth. [Not to mention that pregnancy can -- and does -- immediately after menarche].

Turning to the topic of my expertise (sacraments): An infant born prematurely at home in the 17th -- 19th century would have been "ondoyé" (provisionally baptised) by the midwife, and brought to the church as soon as possible (which, in wintertime, might have been several months later) for the other rites of baptism to be performed. A infant who was stillborn would have been "ondoyé", and that fact would have been recorded in the burial record.

Fr John L



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Subject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska


The way the dates are, if they are correct, it's almost impossible to have
abies that close together.......unless the second one was a preemie....
nd in those days, they usually didn't survive.
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ehalf Of Russell Dorr
ent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:59 PM
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ubject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska
Interesting. Even more interesting is the fact that they were born only 6
onths apart to the same parents! What gives?

ud
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rom: Fr John L <>
ubject: Re: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska
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ate: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 10:54 PM


According to the record on two consecutive pages of the register of the
arish of St. Basile de Madawaska, Father Charles Hott, priest and pastor of
hat parish, on 18 March 1806, baptised two sons of Joseph Tibeaudeau and
arie Josephte Cote, namely Firmin Theodule Tibeaudeau and Simon Maxime
ibeaudeau. The record also indicates that Firmin Theodule was born on 12
anuary 1800, Simon Maxime on 28 July of the same year, and that both were
aptised during that year by Messire Francois Vezina, missionary there at
hat time. There is no reason given in the record for the second baptismal
eremony. However, according to my own experience of nearly 40 years of
riesthood, I am quite sure the reason was that the records kept by Messire
ezina, missionary were either deteriorating or difficult to read. This was
ot simply a transcription of the previous record, as indicated by the fact
hat, in addition to the marks [ + } of some of the
participants who were unable to sign their own names, there are names
ritten out in a different hand than Father Hott.

r John L

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rom: Russell Dorr <>
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ent: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 8:08 pm
ubject: [QUEBEC] Baptisms at St-Basile Madawaska

n this page, there are two baptisms of two sons of Joseph Thibodeau &
rie-Josephte Coté, one for Firmin Thèodule, the other for Simon Maxime,
oth
18 Mar 1806. What is odd is that it seems Firmin was born 12 Jan 1800,
imon
28 Jul 1800. Can anyone figure out what is going on here? The URL is at
he
d.
hanks,
ud Dorr
ttp://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1110&iid=d13p_31370798&f
=Simon+Maxime&ln=Tibeaudeau&st=r&ssrc=&pid=631889


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